tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... 
hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall... 
I thought they made it to the Cup finals last year?? cratch:
Pretty good if you ask me
I was waiting for that! :lol:
cratch:
I'm sure both you and tiger realize that the Norris Trophy is a
regular season trophy.
The poll of the PHWA is taken at the end of the regular season.
:thumb:
lidstrom is better than pronger..period..
hell...mitchell played better than pronger in the playoffs!!
tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall...
I thought they made it to the Cup finals last year?? cratch:
Pretty good if you ask me
I was waiting for that! :lol: cratch:
I'm sure both you and tiger realize that the Norris Trophy is a regular season trophy. The poll of the PHWA is taken at the end of the regular season.
:thumb:
Ya, but I thought players played for the Stanley Cup...which isn't awarded by a poll.
tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall...
I thought they made it to the Cup finals last year?? cratch:
Pretty good if you ask me
I was waiting for that! :lol: cratch:
I'm sure both you and tiger realize that the Norris Trophy is a regular season trophy. The poll of the PHWA is taken at the end of the regular season.
:thumb:
Ya, but I thought players played for the Stanley Cup...which isn't awarded by a poll.
???
cratch:
What does that have to do with the your original comment that Pronger was robbed of the Norris Trophy? :roll:
I really cannot believe I have to repeat myself, but here it is again..
the Norris Trophy is awarded to the outstanding D-man of the REGULAR SEASON, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Playoffs..
wow... :?
tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall...
I thought they made it to the Cup finals last year?? cratch:
Pretty good if you ask me
I was waiting for that! :lol: cratch:
I'm sure both you and tiger realize that the Norris Trophy is a regular season trophy. The poll of the PHWA is taken at the end of the regular season.
:thumb:
Ya, but I thought players played for the Stanley Cup...which isn't awarded by a poll.
??? cratch:
What does that have to do with the your original comment that Pronger was robbed of the Norris Trophy? :roll:
I really cannot believe I have to repeat myself, but here it is again..
the Norris Trophy is awarded to the outstanding D-man of the REGULAR SEASON, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Playoffs..
wow... :?
YA, and last year (the year we're talking about), Pronger helped lead the Oil past the Lidstrom-led Wings, and to the 7th game of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. (duh :? )
Not only was Pronger the best regular season D-man, he was a Conn Smythe candidate in the playoffs...the only season that matters in hockey (just ask this years Buffalo Sabres).
tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall...
I thought they made it to the Cup finals last year?? cratch:
Pretty good if you ask me
I was waiting for that! :lol: cratch:
I'm sure both you and tiger realize that the Norris Trophy is a regular season trophy. The poll of the PHWA is taken at the end of the regular season.
:thumb:
Ya, but I thought players played for the Stanley Cup...which isn't awarded by a poll.
??? cratch:
What does that have to do with the your original comment that Pronger was robbed of the Norris Trophy? :roll:
I really cannot believe I have to repeat myself, but here it is again..
the Norris Trophy is awarded to the outstanding D-man of the REGULAR SEASON, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Playoffs..
wow... :?
YA, and last year (the year we're talking about), Pronger helped lead the Oil past the Lidstrom-led Wings, and to the 7th game of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. (duh :? )
Not only was Pronger the best regular season D-man, he was a Conn Smythe candidate in the playoffs...the only season that matters in hockey (just ask this years Buffalo Sabres).
It's hilarious how you 'stickhandle' around the issue and make yourself look more stupid with each post you make.
At least now you seem to be
somewhat aware that the Norris Trophy is awarded for regular season performance. It only took you 12 hours and 3 posts to realize it. :lol:
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Anyways, show me why Pronger should have won the Norris Trophy last year. I showed you why Lidstrom was deserving.
(This should be fun..
)
By the way, just so you know, Pronger finished 7th in Norris Trophy voting last year!
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thehip420 Wrote:thedarkcanuck Wrote:the quote feature is being abused
yeah no shit.
we had a thread going a long time ago where we did that, it was huge..unfortunately i cant remember what the thread was about to search for it..
opiated Wrote:lidstrom is better than pronger..period..
hell...mitchell played better than pronger in the playoffs!!
Whatever. You don't like Pronger. I get it.
The Norris is for the regular season. Pronger WAS the TEAM last season in regards to the Oilers. Besides, this debate lost any real seriousness when someone called Zubov a better d-man than Pronger.
Mitchell played better than Pronger did he, Opiated? What do you base that on? The fact that you're a Canucks fan? Or the fact that Pronger is one game away from making the Cup Final for the second year in a row?
tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tommygunn Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:Lidstrom is one of the greatest D-men to ever play the game..one bad play does not ruin an entire career
Bobby Orr? I would contend that Lidstrom isn't even the best defenseman right now, let alone all time. Pronger, Neidermeyer, and Lidstrom are CLEARLY the top 3 ELITE d-men in hockey. That alone should be enough acclaim. For Healey to go one step further and start calling him the greatest ever..... hock: :roll: :roll:
Yeah that's a little ridiculous, but I would say he is one of the best ever, you can't argue with 4 norris trophies.
I know Edmonton loves hating Pronger, but somehow Lidstrom stole a Norris Trophy from him last season...Pronger definitely deserved it.
I agree.
Huh? cratch:
Lidstrom deserved the Norris last year. He clearly was the best D-man in the 05-06 season.. Zubov and Niedermayer were better than Pronger as well.
Yeah, whatever. In your dream world maybe. :wink:
Dream world?
Lidstrom led all defensemen in scoring (16 goals, 64 assists), was 3rd overall in ice time per game, was a +21, and was one of the few players in the league to average more than five minutes of power-play and six minutes of shorthanded time per game. Not to mention he was a major component in his team finishing 1st place overall.
And your case for Pronger winning it? Besides the Oilers finishing 14th place overall...
Edmonton or Detroit? Hmmm, I wonder which team was better last season. I'm sure Lidstrom would have had the Oil in 1st place overall last season. :roll:
tigerthelion Wrote:opiated Wrote:lidstrom is better than pronger..period..
hell...mitchell played better than pronger in the playoffs!!
Whatever. You don't like Pronger. I get it.
The Norris is for the regular season. Pronger WAS the TEAM last season in regards to the Oilers. Besides, this debate lost any real seriousness when someone called Zubov a better d-man than Pronger.
Mitchell played better than Pronger did he, Opiated? What do you base that on? The fact that you're a Canucks fan? Or the fact that Pronger is one game away from making the Cup Final for the second year in a row?
the fact that he played better
...just cause Pronger is one game away from the cup, does not mean he played better in the Nucks/Ducks series...Pronger had a pretty mediocre series...For the record, I do think Pronger is a better D-man than Mitchell, just that Willie played better in round 2
thedarkcanuck Wrote:heres hoping the nhl gets rid of these stupid afternoon games after the bs with nbc yesterday. i can only speak for myself, but my interest in playoff hockey fades away drastically when i`m forced to decide to watch a hockey game at 1 in the afternoon or spend the time outside on a nice sunny day.
agreed...but it will never happen..
did i hear right that NBC didn't even show the OT between Ottawa and Buffalo(perhaps it was Anaheim/Detroit) so they could go to Horse Racing???
the only reason they were playing in the afternoon was for those fucking douchebags at NBC
opiated Wrote:thedarkcanuck Wrote:heres hoping the nhl gets rid of these stupid afternoon games after the bs with nbc yesterday. i can only speak for myself, but my interest in playoff hockey fades away drastically when i`m forced to decide to watch a hockey game at 1 in the afternoon or spend the time outside on a nice sunny day.
agreed...but it will never happen..
did i hear right that NBC didn't even show the OT between Ottawa and Buffalo(perhaps it was Anaheim/Detroit) so they could go to Horse Racing???
the only reason they were playing in the afternoon was for those fucking douchebags at NBC
Yeah it was the overtime between Ottawa and Buffalo and they cut to the fucking pre game show for the Preakness Stakes, what a joke.
I watched the Ducks/Wings game on NBC & they showed the OT, but just the news was scheduled after the game. I watched the Sens game on CBC though...