mastodonfarm Wrote:Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and "The Final Cut", Roger Water's "Radio Kaos", Big Audio Dynamite's "BAD II", The Beatle's white album, Peter Gabriel's "Us". Hell, even De La Soul's "...Is Dead". These are (to me) classic complete albums that I've stumbled upon in my life. Some tell a complete story, some just have a gestalt feel (that is even if the individual songs don't stand alone too strongly, they are part of an awesome experience).
And that's how WATS feels to me. I don't get any feel for a complete story yet - it's only been a week and I'm slow to the draw! - but it certainly has a gestalt feeling about it. I don't think this album is going to be a "go-to" for me - not like PP, or WC or even F,C. It's not a judgment on the quality of the music, so much as it is one of the mood of the album. Could you imagine listening to "The Wall" end-to-end 4 times a week? You'd go mad!
Two albums that any true music lover should own. The Gunner's Dream is such an incredible song to me. The entire Final Cut album is incredible and so underrated when compared to other Pink Floyd albums. Heck, you hardly ever hear anyone talk about it, it's always WYWH, DSOTM, and The Wall.............
Actually, that happens to quite a few musicians, they have huge success with one album and then their next is 10x better, yet it is not as radio friendly, not "gotten" by mainstream, or just overshadowed by the "big" sale album.........
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut overshadowed by The Wall
Peter Gabriel - Us overshadowed by So
Springsteen - Tunnel of Love WAY, WAY overshadowed by Born In The USA
The Hip - Day For Night overshadowed by Fully Completely
I am sure I could continue on with this list.........
Still making my way through the album (a few times, but not enough yet)...
Strangely, what stook out to me is some Radiohead feeling to it. Specifically, The Last Recluse... it's all I could think about when I first heard it. Well, that and Dire Wolf. Perhaps my favourite tune on the album, but that's open to change and still may before the day is done.
cochise Wrote:mastodonfarm Wrote:Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and "The Final Cut", Roger Water's "Radio Kaos", Big Audio Dynamite's "BAD II", The Beatle's white album, Peter Gabriel's "Us". Hell, even De La Soul's "...Is Dead". These are (to me) classic complete albums that I've stumbled upon in my life. Some tell a complete story, some just have a gestalt feel (that is even if the individual songs don't stand alone too strongly, they are part of an awesome experience).
And that's how WATS feels to me. I don't get any feel for a complete story yet - it's only been a week and I'm slow to the draw! - but it certainly has a gestalt feeling about it. I don't think this album is going to be a "go-to" for me - not like PP, or WC or even F,C. It's not a judgment on the quality of the music, so much as it is one of the mood of the album. Could you imagine listening to "The Wall" end-to-end 4 times a week? You'd go mad!
Two albums that any true music lover should own. The Gunner's Dream is such an incredible song to me. The entire Final Cut album is incredible and so underrated when compared to other Pink Floyd albums. Heck, you hardly ever hear anyone talk about it, it's always WYWH, DSOTM, and The Wall.............
Actually, that happens to quite a few musicians, they have huge success with one album and then their next is 10x better, yet it is not as radio friendly, not "gotten" by mainstream, or just overshadowed by the "big" sale album.........
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut overshadowed by The Wall
Peter Gabriel - Us overshadowed by So
Springsteen - Tunnel of Love WAY, WAY overshadowed by Born In The USA
The Hip - Day For Night overshadowed by Fully Completely
I am sure I could continue on with this list.........
Zeppelin III and Houses of the Holy overshadowed by IV
I've pissed off many a rock fan by admitting that Zep does nothing for me. I recognize their place in history and appreciate their contribution and influence, but to me their music...meh.
So, I'll take your word for those albums!
Woodrov Wrote:Still making my way through the album (a few times, but not enough yet)...
Strangely, what stook out to me is some Radiohead feeling to it. Specifically, The Last Recluse... it's all I could think about when I first heard it. Well, that and Dire Wolf. Perhaps my favourite tune on the album, but that's open to change and still may before the day is done.
I don't hear Radiohead in this album, but I've occasionally wondered if The Hip like Radiohead and if Radiohead have ever listened to The Hip.
Gortron Wrote:Woodrov Wrote:Still making my way through the album (a few times, but not enough yet)...
Strangely, what stook out to me is some Radiohead feeling to it. Specifically, The Last Recluse... it's all I could think about when I first heard it. Well, that and Dire Wolf. Perhaps my favourite tune on the album, but that's open to change and still may before the day is done.
I don't hear Radiohead in this album, but I've occasionally wondered if The Hip like Radiohead and if Radiohead have ever listened to The Hip.
The horns n' strings in sections in various places, layering and so forth. It does sound Hip, but I feel a RH influence in there. In Last Recluse from about 2:30 on.
Anyway, interesting album all the way through.
I can't see the connection to Radiohead at all. I tried and I just don't hear it.
tragicallysteve Wrote:I can't see the connection to Radiohead at all. I tried and I just don't hear it.
You know what... maybe this is one of those things where I thought I heard some semblance of that and I'm just carrying on trying to convince myself that I did. I still get a sense of it - maybe not as strong anymore. Dang.
We can always dream, right?
KingLear Wrote:My first opinion after a few tinmes I played the CD; dissapointing.
Where is the rock from for example Road Apples, World Container?
To many easy listening.
I hope it will change after a period of listening and listening.
Hope to see them in the end of this year in Paradiso Amsterdam.
i've listened 20-plus times and overall i'm agreeing with you.
lack of rock, yes, but i can live with that (sometimes) if it's a band i like a lot.
(ain't got patience for mellow-yellow otherwise.)
however a lot of it just sounds too adult or middle of the road, for lack of a better term.
still really, really dig aboot four or five of the numbers though.
Woodrov Wrote:tragicallysteve Wrote:I can't see the connection to Radiohead at all. I tried and I just don't hear it.
You know what... maybe this is one of those things where I thought I heard some semblance of that and I'm just carrying on trying to convince myself that I did. I still get a sense of it - maybe not as strong anymore. Dang.
We can always dream, right?
I love the hip and radiohead and when I listen to the album there are moments that make me think of radiohead (and I smile) but I cannot pin them down perhaps that it is the nature of
semblance ... me thinks this is because the hip have shifted gears a little on wats and that might be the note i hear – (the always shifting gears of radiohead) --- either way great album - with many influences
Random question..
How old are the members of the hip?
Gusthepolarbear12 Wrote:Random question..
How old are the members of the hip?
i would say 45/46 is the avg. age of the band - geezer butler's essentially
Mabey its just me but when I drive to work and back home and I have the WATS CD playing LOUD VERY LOUD I hear some good rockin beats and guitar and there are some real fast parts in more songs that I thought at first.
This CD rocks more than its getting credit for. Its not all slow and medium its jus that the slow and medium songs are so good that you remember them more.
WesleyC. Wrote:Mabey its just me but when I drive to work and back home and I have the WATS CD playing LOUD VERY LOUD I hear some good rockin beats and guitar and there are some real fast parts in more songs that I thought at first.
This CD rocks more than its getting credit for. Its not all slow and medium its jus that the slow and medium songs are so good that you remember them more.
I agree totally. The more I listen to this album the more I really like it. I'm looking forward to hearing these songs live. I'm finding myself liking more and more songs on this album everyday. I love the "feel" of this album. I can't help but think how great these songs will sound live with the Gordie rants and jams....
Can finally post my impressions!
After the first spin, I was a little worried I wasn't going to be 'down'. But the second listen caused me to do an about-face on most of my skepticism. By listen #3 I was digging almost the entire recored. The strings can be a little overdramatic and overblown at times, but I must admit, familiarity helps in appreciating their use.
Love
Queen Of The Furrows (amongst some of the best stuff they've done)
Last Recluse (gorgeous)
Honey Please (just keeps rising up my chart....it's really really good)
Really Like
Morning Moon (restraint pays off on this)
Coffee Girl (impressive, sophisticated)
Struggle Has A Name (beautiful)
Exact Feeling (most 'classic' structure of any song on the record)
Like (and growing)
Depression Suite (Love Parts I and II, Part III is a little too much for me)
Speed River
Frozen In My Tracks (I'd love this track if I thought the choruses were as sweet as the verses, musically)
Country Day (needs to be about 70 seconds shorter, imo)
Don't Like
Love Is A First (gotta put the 'wtf' tag on this one)
Very pleased with this record! :thumb: