03-23-2009, 01:48 AM
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03-23-2009, 01:54 AM
Speaking for myself, I still hold a grudge against Bob Rock for ruining Metallica. That said, I don't hate what he did with WC, and I don't really have a problem with the production on the title track and In View.
Goddamnit, it's 3 AM over here, I have class at 9, and i'm seriously considering digging my mandolin out of the closet to learn "Queen of the Furrows."
Goddamnit, it's 3 AM over here, I have class at 9, and i'm seriously considering digging my mandolin out of the closet to learn "Queen of the Furrows."
03-23-2009, 02:06 AM
Roy-at-tth Wrote:tiger were you not normally a fan of Bob Rock? or WC generally?I'm not a huge fan of Bob Rock. I do like WC, but I certainly don't love it. I feel that some of the songs were ruined by Mr. Rock.
I have to say that this album is new territory for the band. Some of the songs are just friggin way out there and it's great to hear a new sound from the Hip. The best moment of the album for me, so far, is when Robbie just blasts out a solo out of nowhere on Queen of the Furrows. That song just takes off about half way into it, and it is an instant classic. I'd have to say that Gord's lyrics aren't all that great on this album, but some of the songs are gonna really surprise fans. This doesn't sound anything like WC, IMO.
03-23-2009, 02:07 AM
On so folks...Whats the rating? How many stars? On the totem pole of hip albums you love, where's it go?
03-23-2009, 02:10 AM
It's too early for me to give it a rating. I really dig some songs, and some songs are kind of boring. Oh, what the heck, I'll go ahead and give it a 7.5/10, even though that might go up or down upon repeated listens. I can't predict the future, but this album kind of feels like an album that I'll like more and more as time goes by.
03-23-2009, 04:27 AM
Ahh so people discovered the leak here... I stumbled upon it late yesterday. i was torn as to whether i should say something or just let people eventually find it themselves for a number of reasons. In todays day and age a release date doesnt mean anything other than to "expect the album to pop up on the net about 2 weeks or so before XX date" so it was bound to happen.
But ANYWAY, I've had a number of listens front to back and have felt different things towards all of the songs. My verdict is pretty much what I feared it would be with Bob Rock at the helm again... its that everything organic and honest about the music, the rawness of the guitars, the bass, and drums were completely engulphed by that orchestra or some keys. I mean....The Depression Suite sounds like a broadway musical...Its different, not bad, just different. ill get used to it im sure. Dont get me wrong I love the music that the band has made and sometimes even the extra production was very appropriate (Bob Rock must have SOME brains to get as far as he has in the business) but there were also times where it made me puke in my mouth a little bit. For example at the end of 'Country day' during the extended outro, deep, deep under all of the strings, the chior of backing vocals, and even the guitars. there's a rip roaring banjo solo blazing along the final seconds of the track....but you can only hear it with headphones on....thats just uncalled for.....but its not all negative, no, its quite the opposite.
The few clean momments on the album free of any of Bob's extra spit and polish slopped ontop the songs were among the most memorable moments on the album for me. an example, also near the end of Country day where gord is singing "God keep our land, because we certainly can't..." listen to that.. THATS The Tragically Hip i know and love! and its THAT rawness that just assures me further that these songs will sound absolutely amazing live! Stripped down and real!
There are many brilliant momments on the album for me, The haunting opera style singing in the last recluse, the last 1/3 of the depression suite. The emotion during bridge of 'Now the struggle has a name'. The Kashmir-esque riffs rising in 'The Exact Feeling', Robby's solo in 'Queen of the Furrows' just to name only a few. There were Wows a plenty and the structure to the songs are as mature and complex as I've ever heard the boys come up with! i think it's refreshing and amazing to really hear the musical evolution from the boys that has taken place over the last 25+ years!
Dont ever stop! :thumb:
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just an honest take on the album as ive digested it so far, one thing is for sure... I Cant effing wait for the tour! :jump
But ANYWAY, I've had a number of listens front to back and have felt different things towards all of the songs. My verdict is pretty much what I feared it would be with Bob Rock at the helm again... its that everything organic and honest about the music, the rawness of the guitars, the bass, and drums were completely engulphed by that orchestra or some keys. I mean....The Depression Suite sounds like a broadway musical...Its different, not bad, just different. ill get used to it im sure. Dont get me wrong I love the music that the band has made and sometimes even the extra production was very appropriate (Bob Rock must have SOME brains to get as far as he has in the business) but there were also times where it made me puke in my mouth a little bit. For example at the end of 'Country day' during the extended outro, deep, deep under all of the strings, the chior of backing vocals, and even the guitars. there's a rip roaring banjo solo blazing along the final seconds of the track....but you can only hear it with headphones on....thats just uncalled for.....but its not all negative, no, its quite the opposite.
The few clean momments on the album free of any of Bob's extra spit and polish slopped ontop the songs were among the most memorable moments on the album for me. an example, also near the end of Country day where gord is singing "God keep our land, because we certainly can't..." listen to that.. THATS The Tragically Hip i know and love! and its THAT rawness that just assures me further that these songs will sound absolutely amazing live! Stripped down and real!
There are many brilliant momments on the album for me, The haunting opera style singing in the last recluse, the last 1/3 of the depression suite. The emotion during bridge of 'Now the struggle has a name'. The Kashmir-esque riffs rising in 'The Exact Feeling', Robby's solo in 'Queen of the Furrows' just to name only a few. There were Wows a plenty and the structure to the songs are as mature and complex as I've ever heard the boys come up with! i think it's refreshing and amazing to really hear the musical evolution from the boys that has taken place over the last 25+ years!
Dont ever stop! :thumb:
...
just an honest take on the album as ive digested it so far, one thing is for sure... I Cant effing wait for the tour! :jump
03-23-2009, 04:32 AM
Good review. Agree in the main. Lots of strings and stuff which is going to take a wee while to get used to. But quite a few WOW moments and I can see these songs are going to be the soundtrack to the summer for me.
New Hip albums always take a fair amount of bedding in though. Bring on the requisite strangeness, indeed.
New Hip albums always take a fair amount of bedding in though. Bring on the requisite strangeness, indeed.
03-23-2009, 04:42 AM
I was reading a track review of "Morning Moon" off cokemachineglow.com that stated this.
". . .making something Bob Rock produced sound warm. I don’t know, maybe they’re slowly starting to break this guy down, making him see the error of his Diamond Dave/St. Anger (2003) ways—and good on them for making the best of another unfortunate pairing—but the negative impact of his utilitarian approach, and the frustration of hearing this band’s potential struggle to escape it, lingers. "
Is this how those who have heard We Are The Same, hear it. Is Bob Rock more of a liabiltiy, than an asset (that is how I felt onlots of WC.)If so you can't help but wonder how great they could be with a producer who actually compliments them.
". . .making something Bob Rock produced sound warm. I don’t know, maybe they’re slowly starting to break this guy down, making him see the error of his Diamond Dave/St. Anger (2003) ways—and good on them for making the best of another unfortunate pairing—but the negative impact of his utilitarian approach, and the frustration of hearing this band’s potential struggle to escape it, lingers. "
Is this how those who have heard We Are The Same, hear it. Is Bob Rock more of a liabiltiy, than an asset (that is how I felt onlots of WC.)If so you can't help but wonder how great they could be with a producer who actually compliments them.
03-23-2009, 04:48 AM
TG Wrote:...Is this how those who have heard We Are The Same, hear it. Is Bob Rock more of a liabiltiy, than an asset (that is how I felt onlots of WC.)If so you can't help but wonder how great they could be with a producer who actually compliments them.Seems to me that The Hip have been doing this long enough to make their own decisions on what or who compliments them. And by sticking with Bob Rock for a second album it looks like they have made their statement - this is how they want to be heard. Listening to this new album is pretty thrilling, IMHO.
03-23-2009, 04:57 AM
andy42g Wrote:TG Wrote:...Is this how those who have heard We Are The Same, hear it. Is Bob Rock more of a liabiltiy, than an asset (that is how I felt onlots of WC.)If so you can't help but wonder how great they could be with a producer who actually compliments them.Seems to me that The Hip have been doing this long enough to make their own decisions on what or who compliments them. And by sticking with Bob Rock for a second album it looks like they have made their statement - this is how they want to be heard. Listening to this new album is pretty thrilling, IMHO.
Can't wait to hear it.
03-23-2009, 06:56 AM
I had a feeling it was going to leak yesterday, I guess I just wasn't checking the right places. Thanks for the tip!
03-23-2009, 07:59 AM
That's a shame, if it's true. I guess it's par for the course, I suppose. Two weeks before release is pretty decent these days
03-23-2009, 08:43 AM
Any hint on that leak? I am buying the album (have to have the real deal for gosh sakes) but man do I want a listen! :jump
03-23-2009, 08:55 AM
Check the Pirate Bay.
It's alright so far, not as immediately appealing as WC but it should grow on me. Hopefully.
It's alright so far, not as immediately appealing as WC but it should grow on me. Hopefully.
03-23-2009, 09:02 AM
thx