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googolplex Wrote:

robert goulet Wrote:I've been repeatedly listening to the final track, World Container and it really strikes me as having a very similar sound and feel as The Final Cut era of Pink Floyd...especially the build up on the piano and Rob's guitar work...for those Floyd fans, take another listen and see if you hear what I'm hearing too...think Gunner's Dream, The Post War Dream....and for Jenna, a splash of Daysleeper too!!!

Wow it actually does really sound like some stuff of The Final Cut. Especially when the guitar comes in after "don't forget".

Yeah with Bob Geldof of Boomtown Rats reprising his role as "Pink"

WOW...I'm speechless. This record is absolutely insanely amazing :thumb:

emperor penguin Wrote:

NMAS Wrote:From what I hear of the album on my desk top speakers at work it sounds great, some great stuff. I will pass full judgement when I get it in my hands and can listen on my system at home and get the full Sonic-ness of the album, I just don't get that at work.

A lot of people are loving this right off that bat which is a bit of a concern as most Hip albums take some time to sink in. I hope it has staying power. I know everyone is excited to here the new stuff.

I've never understood the argument that if you like a song or an album right away it may somehow be a detraction to the quality of it. There's obviously a reason why you like like the album upon first listen, because it's good.

I've never been like "wow, this is really good....wait a minute, I'm really enjoying this right of the bat, something has to be wrong here..If I like this so much now, it can't be that good." After seeing all the posotive reviews and repsonses to the new album on here, I dont think people are going to come on here in two weeks and talk about how they no longer think World Container is a great album.

What I'm saying is, if its good music, its good music. I don't see the need to question the overwhelmingly positive response to this as a possible detriment to the quality.

I'm not knocking anybody for loving it, as I listen to it more, it is Freaking amazing, easily the best work since Day For Night. IMO. Just saying that I have bought non Hip albums in the bast that upon the first couple of listenings it is great, then it just seems to die.
THAT WON'T HAPPEN WITH THIS ALBUM. Can't wait to get it in my hands, I know I am only getting about half the goodness on my computer.

Around the 2:30 mark of Yer Not the Ocean, the guitars are reminiscant of Last American Exit

Any indication as to who's playing the piano? Gord S.?

Could be Bob Rock, or Robbie

Best work since Music at Work!! I'm really hoping that last night was just a really bad night for me, but I really didn't like what I heard. The energy of the songs were amazing, the album rocks hard...but none of that matters when you don't have good melodies. I might listen to it again and love it, but so far I'm hurting.

bug_superstar79 Wrote:Best work since Music at Work!! I'm really hoping that last night was just a really bad night for me, but I really didn't like what I heard. The energy of the songs were amazing, the album rocks hard...but none of that matters when you don't have good melodies. I might listen to it again and love it, but so far I'm hurting.

Are you kidding?? This album has more melodies and hooks than anything else in their entire catalogue. I'm not even listening to it right now, and I have goosebumps just thinking about it. Yer Not The Ocean, Rink, In View, Fly, Family Band, Last Night I Dreamed, World Container....how much more melody do ya want?

The cool thing about this album IMO, is that it sounds so "new"...its fresh, it doesn't sound like they are digging up some past sound again..some of the songs are unlike anything they've ever done. IBE sounded a bit like they fell back on doing what they already knew how to do musically..This album sounds like they stretched out a bit.

direwolf74 Wrote:

bug_superstar79 Wrote:Best work since Music at Work!! I'm really hoping that last night was just a really bad night for me, but I really didn't like what I heard. The energy of the songs were amazing, the album rocks hard...but none of that matters when you don't have good melodies. I might listen to it again and love it, but so far I'm hurting.

Are you kidding?? This album has more melodies and hooks than anything else in their entire catalogue. I'm not even listening to it right now, and I have goosebumps just thinking about it. Yer Not The Ocean, Rink, In View, Fly, Family Band, Last Night I Dreamed, World Container....how much more melody do ya want?

agreed...it's loaded with goodies

It sounds completely different from anything they've ever done before! It's crazy. I didn't know what to expect from this album, but it certainly was not this... and it's amazing! Unexpected and awesome!

bug_superstar79 Wrote:Best work since Music at Work!! I'm really hoping that last night was just a really bad night for me, but I really didn't like what I heard. The energy of the songs were amazing, the album rocks hard...but none of that matters when you don't have good melodies. I might listen to it again and love it, but so far I'm hurting.

It's more melodic than anything they have done in years, maybe period.

...the intro to Yer not the ocean has a little RH Ripchordness about it, but in reverse

tim_mac Wrote:question for Skippy the wonder dog. How do you think the album flows, particulaly the sceond half?

I think it's alarming that anyone actually wants my opinion.

I guess you remembered something I scribbled in the past about their albums not flowing well, and dying in the home stretch. And I thought I was the only one who paid attention to what I say -- the wife and kids sure don't.

This album reminds me most strongly, out of all the Hip albums, of M@W. But World Container flows a lot better. Two of the strongest songs -- Drop Off and World Container -- are on the second half.

I dunno if I can agree with comments like NMAS saying this is their best since DFN. Best since Phantom Power I could buy, but that's not the strongest field to play against. It's certainly more solid than M@W or IVL, but on the other hand I don't think the peaks are as high. Listening to World Container for the first time, nothing made me say, "I want to hear that track again right now," except maybe Drop Off.

Rink seems to me one of their most original and different songs in a while, with some original guitar work and what sounds like a nod to Queen. Drop Off is great, and World Container is a really strong closing track. But In View suffers from a goofy arrangement, and Ocean's endlessly repeated chorus wears out its welcome. So....

The influence of the antichrist, sometimes known as Bob Rock, is obvious. The album is a lot more hook-laden than you would normally expect of the Hip, and that's not necessarily bad -- e.g. the infectious guitar riff in The Kids. The songwriting remains Hip, though. If Rock needs shooting here, it isn't for the crimes everyone expected, but for overproducing World Container and Pretend. These songs suffer under the weight of so many layers and probably would have benefited from sparser arrangements.

The band's biggest fault on this one is the same problem they've suffered for a while now: Downie oversinging on every song, as if he's not sure what to do with himself unless he's warbling. He needs to give the band more space.

So, I would say a solid album end-to-end, and likely to get them more radio play than they've seen in a while, but not likely to stand up against DFN or Phantom Power in the long run.

Thus concludes the long-winded review.

skippy the wonder dog Wrote:If Rock needs shooting here, it isn't for the crimes everyone expected, but for overproducing World Container and Pretend. These songs suffer under the weight of so many layers and probably would have benefited from sparser arrangements.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Pretend could easily have been the best song on the album. I also agree that Gord oversings this album, but in general I've felt he's oversung quite a bit at live shows these past few years so I guess I've gotten used to it.