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scottitude Wrote:Sometimes less is more.

In this case, for me anyway, less is epic.

Yeah, Ocean Next is the kind of slow song I've been wanting after overproduced stuff like Pretend.

For me so far my early favs are What blue, Possesed, Here,in the Dark and Machine. Contrary to most here, the only one I'm still not digging is Ocean's Next, but I'm sure that'll change

I know (well "know" in a very loose sens of the term) a local Kingston musician that does a lot of work with the boys., in fact she just had a show last night with Rob and Gord S. Anyways, she happened to make a comment on a post about the Kingston show.

"stop referring to it as 'the final show'. Nobody from The Hip front lines has said such a thing"

This gave me a glimmer of hope that something more is to come.[/quote]


I apologize for my stupid assumption. Thanks for the good news!

Listening to Rob Baker's track-by-track interview on Tragically Hip Radio on SiriusXM. I signed up for the free trial just to listen to it. Very interesting. Apparently Man and Machine were originally one long 10-minute song, which they ended up chopping in half to bookend the album.

Also, an interesting quote from Baker regarding producers: "We made two albums with Steve Berlin, and one of them was really good. We also made two with Bob Rock, and one of those was really good." He didn't say which albums were the good ones, but if I had to guess I'd say PP and WC. Says they're not an easy band to produce. Steve Berlin likened it to working with the UN Security Council. Funny stuff.

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Not really much to add here, but I'm loving this after first listen. Definitely more a M@W or IVL vibe, but the best parts of those albums. If this ends up being the Hip's last album (I have blind faith that it won't be), I think it's a great legacy piece left behind, rather than any of the other recent albums.

Last point: Possessed sounds even better in the context of this album, directly following Man, and I already loved it!

Us westerners have to wait for our cd...! Pre-order is slower, it's probably in the record store...

direwolf74 Wrote:Listening to Rob Baker's track-by-track interview on Tragically Hip Radio on SiriusXM. I signed up for the free trial just to listen to it. Very interesting. Apparently Man and Machine were originally one long 10-minute song, which they ended up chopping in half to bookend the album.

Also, an interesting quote from Baker regarding producers: "We made two albums with Steve Berlin, and one of them was really good. We also made two with Bob Rock, and one of those was really good." He didn't say which albums were the good ones, but if I had to guess I'd say PP and WC. Says they're not an easy band to produce. Steve Berlin likened it to working with the UN Security Council. Funny stuff.

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Yeah, he said that Don Smith was the only producer to get two good albums out of them. It was interesting that he said that with the second album (with the same producer), the boys get too involved and listen less to what the producer wants. He also alluded that Don Smith wouldn't do another album with them. He mixed some stuff but that is it.

colin Wrote:

direwolf74 Wrote:Listening to Rob Baker's track-by-track interview on Tragically Hip Radio on SiriusXM. I signed up for the free trial just to listen to it. Very interesting. Apparently Man and Machine were originally one long 10-minute song, which they ended up chopping in half to bookend the album.

Also, an interesting quote from Baker regarding producers: "We made two albums with Steve Berlin, and one of them was really good. We also made two with Bob Rock, and one of those was really good." He didn't say which albums were the good ones, but if I had to guess I'd say PP and WC. Says they're not an easy band to produce. Steve Berlin likened it to working with the UN Security Council. Funny stuff.

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Yeah, he said that Don Smith was the only producer to get two good albums out of them. It was interesting that he said that with the second album (with the same producer), the boys get too involved and listen less to what the producer wants. He also alluded that Don Smith wouldn't do another album with them. He mixed some stuff but that is it.

Another interesting moment was when he mentioned that they recorded a lot more than 10 songs, and that somewhere out there is a phantom/companion album to MMP. Man, I'd give anything to hear those songs. Many years ago, I remember Paul saying that they had recorded close to 30 songs for Music@Work, and had to whittle it down to 14. Can you imagine the amount of unreleased material they have locked up in their vault over the course of 14 albums? Just getting a glimpse into that vault would be like Disneyland for me.

Great posts....thanks for sharing

direwolf74 Wrote:.. that somewhere out there is a phantom/companion album to MMP.

... ! ... Where's the eggplant emoticon when you need it.

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direwolf74 Wrote:Another interesting moment was when he mentioned that they recorded a lot more than 10 songs, and that somewhere out there is a phantom/companion album to MMP. Man, I'd give anything to hear those songs. Many years ago, I remember Paul saying that they had recorded close to 30 songs for Music@Work, and had to whittle it down to 14. Can you imagine the amount of unreleased material they have locked up in their vault over the course of 14 albums? Just getting a glimpse into that vault would be like Disneyland for me.

Wonder how much of those are songs or just ideas. I always equate The Hip and REM, and I think they have a similar approach where the band primarily works on the music and the singer brings the lyrics. In the case of REM, Peter Buck in an interview said most of what was left unreleased were more musical ideas where Stipe could not work out the lyrics. Just seeing clips of the band in the studio from the past few albums, it looks like a lot of work is being done while recording, so what was discarded was maybe never fully fleshed out. Would be pretty amazing to hear what's been left behind over the years.

Strangely compelled makes an appearance.

"You're a real machine, fed on shadows"

About 4:09 into Machine Gord Sinclair's bass comes to the fore as the air clears a bit, then the theme returns and we get a nice tight jam to take us out. Thanks boys!

P.S. Great Album. Love the vibe on every song.

Insomnia!??

Nope.

In Sarnia.