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Gord Downie - Introduce Yerself (2017-10-27)
#76

Good discussion here. I'm looking forward to Introduce Yerself and I think there is clearly an obvious reason why Gord chose to get these tracks laid down quickly and I think the emotional rawness on the album may benefit from that.

But, in general terms, I agree with others here that I think some songs improve with tinkering, albeit outside of the studio is where I think the magic truly happens. You see this with the Hip in the 90's where many songs were gradually refined in their live concerts before they made it to prime-time. There a few examples of this, but listening to the progression of Ahead by a Century in 1995 ARA concerts is a great case in point. It started out as a dirty limerick and gradually morphed into arguably the Hip's most recognizable song.
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#77

I'm a big Dylan fan and can definitely confirm that his disdain for drawn-out recording processes is well-documented. When he did try to play the studio game, the result was 'Infidels,' an album heavily compromised by bizarre exclusions and one in which he swiftly lost interest as a live performer. He's always called his recordings 'blueprints' only.

loach makes, I think, a terrific point. Yes, refine your songs. Leonard Cohen used to take years to finish some of his works. But come to the studio with fully-prepared material and get it down with urgency and life. You're not curating a musuem exhibit.
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#78

potsie Wrote:I differ from you in thinking on the level of preparation for this album. I would be very surprised if these songs were well practiced before they were recorded. I think this album is going to be as raw as anything Gord's done to date and I think many of these tunes are going to represent "rough drafts". And maybe that roughness and spontaneity will match well the emotional nature of the songs. In the end, I'm not opposed to "first takes". As I mentioned above, I just find the marketing of it as being odd.

Yeah, I think Gord may be making stylistic choices that are primarily for him only, not necessarily thinking as much about expectations from fans or critics. This seems like an intensely personal album--imagine writing lovesongs that are also goodbyes--& I wonder if this isn't more a document, in a way, as much as a commercial album. Closer to the book of poetry of 'Coke Machine Glow' than to something like a Hip album. I doubt Gord is concerning himself with sales & reviews. Perhaps the caveat about 'recorded swiftly' is just to help manage expectations before the release, & give some insight into Gord's intentions. We shall see, I guess!

I am a little boggled by the release of this album, because it means that since his diagnosis, Gord has released 2 albums & gone on tour. That is just astonishing.

Also, this thread is why I love this forum: we're on page 6 of a discussion about an album none of us has even heard yet, lol
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#79

Killer Whale Tank Wrote:I'm a big Dylan fan and can definitely confirm that his disdain for drawn-out recording processes is well-documented. When he did try to play the studio game, the result was 'Infidels,' an album heavily compromised by bizarre exclusions and one in which he swiftly lost interest as a live performer. He's always called his recordings 'blueprints' only.

loach makes, I think, a terrific point. Yes, refine your songs. Leonard Cohen used to take years to finish some of his works. But come to the studio with fully-prepared material and get it down with urgency and life. You're not curating a musuem exhibit.
Infidels is a bit "polished" for Dylan standards, but man I always liked the album. Jokerman, Sweetheart Like You, License to Kill, Don't Fall Apart on Me tonight......I find it a pretty solid album.

Don't get me wrong, I love the rawness of an album like Desire, but still Infidels holds its own, well for me anyways.
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#80

Two weeks out...

Maybe a 'single' tomo?

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#81

sean.bonner Wrote:Two weeks out...

Maybe a 'single' tomo?

Tomo? Does it really save that much time to have to shorten the word tomorrow??

Oh well, whatevs Big Grin
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#82

When I look at the album cover, I instantly see, within all the coloured shapes, the ouline of a head looking to the right. The rounded red piece at the top right being the forehead, the pointed, black piece below it being a nose and the rectangluar blue shape below that being the chin. Maybe I'm looking too deeply into it, but that's what I see. Anyone else?
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#83

An album release with no lead single is certainly a bit unique. Just let the name recognition and album stand on its own. I kind of like it (despite how badly I want to hear something from it)
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#84

From the NY Times today (on the making of Introduce Yerself). RIP Gord.

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In the first week of January 2016, the Canadian singer-songwriter Gord Downie paid a visit to the Bathouse, the recording complex that his band, the Tragically Hip, owns in a small town outside Toronto. Rising early each morning, he put on a snowsuit and walked a short distance from the studio to the frozen shores of Lake Ontario, where he sat and hand-wrote lyrics in the cold.

About 10 days earlier, Mr. Downie had told friends that he had an aggressive, deadly form of brain cancer, which ultimately ended his life on Tuesday night at 53. Nearly six more months would pass before he shared the news of his illness with the public, in May 2016, followed by a short summer tour with the Hip, as the band is known, whose emotional finale was watched by millions worldwide. But first, Mr. Downie wanted to make one more album.

“Gord knew this day was coming,” Mr. Downie’s family said in a statement Wednesday. “His response was to spend this precious time as he always had — making music, making memories and expressing deep gratitude to his family and friends for a life well lived, often sealing it with a kiss … on the lips.”

The solo album that Mr. Downie spent his final months working on — “Introduce Yerself,” due out Oct. 27 — is a strikingly intimate record of an artist processing the shock of his own mortality. In this sense, it stands alongside recent farewells like David Bowie’s “Blackstar” and Leonard Cohen’s “You Want It Darker,” both released just days or weeks before those artists’ deaths. But as with much of Mr. Downie’s finest work with the Hip, there’s a feeling of specificity that sets it apart: The lyrics he wrote for its 23 tracks aren’t metaphors or prayers but detailed love letters addressed to friends, family members, old flames and other key figures from his life.

The place of honor that Mr. Downie occupies in Canada’s national imagination has no parallel in the United States. Imagine Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan and Michael Stipe combined into one sensitive, oblique poet-philosopher, and you’re getting close. The Tragically Hip’s music “helped us understand each other, while capturing the complexity and vastness of the place we call home,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in a statement on Wednesday. “Our identity and culture are richer because of his music, which was always raw and honest — like Gord himself.”

“He’s a king,” Kevin Drew of Broken Social Scene, a lifelong Hip fan who produced “Introduce Yerself,” said earlier this month. “If you’re graced with spending time with him, he remembers it — he remembers your name, your husband or wife’s name, your kids’ names. He has an incredible way of giving you that spotlight when he’s in front of you.”

Mr. Drew entered a close fellowship with the older artist starting in 2013, co-producing the band’s “Man Machine Poem” and Mr. Downie’s solo album “Secret Path” (both of which were released last year). When he heard on Christmas Eve 2015 that Mr. Downie’s doctors had found a glioblastoma, he was distraught. Around 10 the next night, he sent Mr. Downie some piano demos over email after leaving a holiday dinner early. “I was thinking, maybe he’ll hear these, and I’ll feel a sense of connection,” Mr. Drew said. “Around 11:30, I went back into my email, and there was Gord, singing over the top of this song.”

They continued corresponding for a few days, with Mr. Drew sketching out chords on his piano at home, then emailing rough recordings to Mr. Downie, who added vocals and sent them back. “At one point, he said: ‘What are we doing here, Kev? It sounds like we’re making a record,’” Mr. Drew recalled. “I wrote him back and said, ‘That’s what it sounds like to me.’”

After New Year’s Day, they headed to the Bathouse to continue writing and recording with a small crew, including the musician Dave Hamelin; the engineer Nyles Spencer; and Dave Koster, a longtime associate of the Hip. Over four extraordinarily productive days at the studio, they made 17 songs, mostly using a minimal setup of piano, drums and guitar. Many were captured in single takes following Mr. Downie’s daily lyrical exercises by the lake. “We were documenting how he was feeling, very quickly,” Mr. Drew said. “There was an urgency that pushed us to create as much as we could. We knew that we needed to focus on pressing record.”

The shadow cast by Mr. Downie’s diagnosis hung heavy over the sessions. “You couldn’t say, ‘Hey, it’s going to be O.K.,’” Mr. Drew said. “But it felt like we were creating more time by being in the studio. If this was the way that we got to be with him, then that’s what we were doing.”

There were moments of real joy, too, like the recording of “You Me and the B’s,” in which Mr. Downie traces a life history through the lens of hockey fandom (“The Bruins kept us tight/We talked about them nearly every day/For over 40 years now”). The singer, his brother Mike Downie and Mr. Koster performed the song’s percussion using hockey sticks on the studio’s driveway on a subfreezing day. “We brought the mikes outside, and I was conducting like an orchestra guy with my headphones,” Mr. Drew said. “They were all swaying and laughing and having a great time.”

This February, the musicians reconvened for another four-day session that yielded 10 additional songs. The mood this time was one of celebration: Despite the memory loss caused by his advancing illness (last fall, he told the CBC, “I can’t remember hardly anything”), and the unfairness of it all, Mr. Downie was committed to finishing the album. “It was wonderful,” Mr. Drew said. “We were still together. There were still songs to be sung. And he really did pull off what he wanted to do, which is take that anger and turn it into love.”

Speaking two weeks before Mr. Downie’s death, Mr. Drew emphasized his collaborator’s warmth and generosity. “What’s irreplaceable about Gord is that whether you know him or not, he’s a friend of yours,” Mr. Drew said. “The letters that he wrote — he could have just kept writing and writing and writing. If it was up to Gord, we would be recording as we speak, right now.”

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#85

Wow. I could barely finish reading that discussion of the album by Kevin Drew without feeling very emotional. Listening to it is going to be incredibly tough. It's going to be goosebumps, hairs up on the back of the neck, and watery eyes the whole way through.
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#86

I thought fingernailsonhull's post should also be posted here for reference:

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Tragically Hip guitarist Rob Baker talks Gord Downie

I found myself speaking to The Hip’s lead guitarist, Rob Baker, on Tuesday afternoon about a custom-made guitar stand made by Kingston-area artist Stefan Duerst just hours before Baker’s longtime bandmate and friend Gord Downie would succumb to brain cancer.

At the time, Baker didn’t want to say much about Downie’s condition other than he was in touch “every few weeks,” and had been to singer’s house for dinner a month ago to hear Downie’s next solo album, Introduce Yerself — due out Oct. 27.

“He played us maybe three or four tracks off of it,” said Baker. “It was pretty moving. It’s a very different thing than a Hip project. It’s very quiet and introspective, kind of singer-songwriter. It’s certainly not a polished thing. It’s raw in expression. I thought it was really beautiful.”

It was my first chance to speak with a member of the Hip since Downie’s diagnosis went public in May 2016, followed by the release of The Hip’s last studio album, Man Machine Poem, and their subsequent final tour across Canada.

“The tour had more with us connecting with each other and us connecting with the fans,” said Baker of not doing any press during the summer of 2016. “It was much more a time to circle the wagons.”

Still, Baker said The Hip’s goodbye trek exceeded their expectations.

“It’s much more than I hoped it would be,” he said. “I never thought it would happen. I’m the guy they call ‘The Black Cloud’ because I’m the guy that can find a black lining in any silver cloud. So, I was really nervous and not that into it — until it started. Once we hit (the first night in) Victoria, I was like, ‘OK, I’m fine with this.’ I didn’t want to go out and do a funeral every night for 15,000 people. That would be a downer. It was very celebratory.”

Baker also said more will likely be heard from The Hip who were “halfway to another album, more in the writing stages so it’s those preliminary rough recordings, but we’ll see what’s there at some point. We also have probably a double album’s worth of unreleased material.”

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#87

I find it hard to believe that two guys as close and they are , would only be in touch “every few weeks”.
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#88

mark Wrote:I find it hard to believe that two guys as close and they are , would only be in touch “every few weeks”.

Over the past year I developed the impression Gord was closest with Paul - naming one of his suits after him, the body language/banter on stage, and Paul attending treatments with Gord (as per LTR doc)

With everything Gord was going through, perhaps Rob felt less was more?
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#89

Typically I just go and buy an album on the day of release, but this time I decided to pre-order online. When ordering, does it normally get sent out a day or two sooner so that it is received the same release day, or does it get mailed out that day and received a few days later?
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#90

cochise Wrote:Typically I just go and buy an album on the day of release, but this time I decided to pre-order online. When ordering, does it normally get sent out a day or two sooner so that it is received the same release day, or does it get mailed out that day and received a few days later?


I find that if you order with Amazon there is a really good chance you will get it delivered on the day of its release. Not sure about other stores/sites though.
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