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skippy the wonder dog Wrote:Well, it's unfortunate that I've failed to convince you, as I've just checked and learned that Shania does, in fact, write (or co-write) her own material.

If you hurry, HMV is still having it's boxing week sale. I'm sure this news has converted you into a Shania fan, and fortunately for your post-Christmas bank balance, her discography is pretty small. Smile

What? You're saying that her music didn't suddenly improve? Could this be an admission that authorship isn't relevant to the quality of her records?

It doesn't matter who writes her crap. Its crap. I don't become a fan of an artist simply because they write their own material, but I'll admit I give 'em a little bit more respect if I find out they write their own music - good or bad. At least they are creating something, which is more than I can do.

I took a look at her songwriting credits and saw that her Svengali is credited as co-writer on virtually every track. Kind of makes me wonder if her contribution to the writing process is something like this: Hey Mutt, I think I should moan "ooooooooooooooh" instead of "mmmmmmm" in that 2nd bridge, OK? :lol:
cferneyh Wrote:It doesn't matter who writes her crap. Its crap. I don't become a fan of an artist simply because they write their own material, but I'll admit I give 'em a little bit more respect if I find out they write their own music - good or bad. At least they are creating something, which is more than I can do.

I took a look at her songwriting credits and saw that her Svengali is credited as co-writer on virtually every track. Kind of makes me wonder if her contribution to the writing process is something like this: Hey Mutt, I think I should moan "ooooooooooooooh" instead of "mmmmmmm" in that 2nd bridge, OK? :lol:

Exactly! I also checked her cds by opening 4 of them which we had in stock. The very first cd she put out was NOT produced by Lange but the rest after that were( and BIG surprise )after Lange took over producing she suddenly 'co-wrote' all of her songs(she only co-wrote 1 song from her first album before Lange.)

Like you said though, I respect an artist so much more if they write their own stuff (minus covers) doesn't matter who it is or what genre of music it is.
opiated Wrote:back to hanson for a second...funny story...i was working at virgin megastore in vancouver and hanson were pretty new...i'll never forget talking to this one guy, and he seemed like a pretty decent fellow..we're chatting away, and i'm not sure how it came up but he says to me.."you know..those gals from hanson are gonna be hot when they get older.."...i wasn't sure if i should tell him or not, but i ended up saying.."umm..they're 14 year old boys.."...i've never seen a face go that red before ever...he stared blankly at me, turned around and walked out the door...


OMG That's one of the funniest stories I've heard...classic!!!

Goulet!!!
beanmedic Wrote:Good Charlotte

OK, now here's the real question. Who sucks more, Good Charlotte, or Simple Plan?

Hmmmm......
That Good Charlotte video with a whole retirement home full of seniors acting like teenager elevates my estimation of them ever so slightly. Even though obviously they didn't come up with the idea. I just HATE Simple Plan. Their success boggles the mind. I mean, Shania has (had) the looks and a good voice, even if her songs did stink...what in the world does SP have going for them?!? What do people see in them? The singing is as whiny as the lyrics, and just as bad.

But really, your question is like asking where bullshit or horseshit smells worse.
grooveless touque Wrote:But really, your question is like asking where bullshit or horseshit smells worse.

Exactly.
beanmedic Wrote:
grooveless touque Wrote:But really, your question is like asking where bullshit or horseshit smells worse.

Exactly.

Good point guys. Well said.

I stand embarassed that I didn't think of that before. :oops:
Always nice to be quoted so I can be reminded over and over when I screw up the wording. If I'm going to keep making late night posts I should really proofread them.

where = whether...obviously Big Grin
sucky and suckiest...hmmmm

deffo linkin park!!!

i cannot believe how much shit this guy overcomes on one CD. really.
but think of all his influential kiddie fans...thinking he is a paradigm of strength.

hahahahahhahahahhahahhahaha

simple plan and good charlotte also both blow chunks.


the frogs, too. and the shags. bjork was so so, but i thoguht the sugarcubes were blah!

hmmmmmmmmm...who else?.......oh, and the melvins piss me off. They don't suck, mind ya, the just irk me is all
Speaking of shitty bands, I now give you my all-time favorite article from the Onion. The first time I read this I was literally in tears from laughing so hard. Enjoy!


Matchbox Twenty finally finishes Watering Down Long-Awaited New Album

LOS ANGELES—Executives at Atlantic Records announced Monday that multi-platinum recording artist Matchbox Twenty, which set sales records in 2000 for its mega-hit release Mad Season, has finally finished watering down tracks on its long-awaited new album Beige.

"Everyone here at Atlantic is thrilled about what's sure to be the biggest-selling, least-rocking record of the year," Atlantic public-relations spokeswoman Janet Cosgrove said. "It's been a long wait, but the incredibly boring results speak for themselves. Beige is bigger and blander than anything Matchbox Twenty has ever done."

"Grab a chair, America!" she added. "The most uninteresting band in formulaic, corporate radio is back!"

The release has been eagerly awaited by Matchbox Twenty's enormous fan base, composed of American record buyers who have a limited interest in music but enjoy the act of shopping. In order to satisfy the undemanding non-tastes of this lucrative market, Matchbox Twenty has made every effort to create what record-industry insiders say is the band's least distinctive album yet.

"Some were disappointed with the relatively limited reception to Matchbox Twenty's 2002 release More Than You Think You Are," Rolling Stone contributing editor Nathan Brackett said. "That album proved what record executives have known for years: It's actually very difficult to record a rock record that has no rock in it at all. But with this new release, Matchbox Twenty has really delivered on its signature non-sound."

After the enormous commercial success of 1996's Yourself Or Someone Like You, demand for simplistic, cookie-cutter output from the band has been high. Yet, according to Grammy-winning lead vocalist Rob Thomas, the new record's release was delayed repeatedly because of Matchbox Twenty's perfectionism in the studio.

"Our goal was to follow in the tradition of great multi-platinum artists like Elton John, Phil Collins, and the Dave Matthews Band—sales powerhouses who relied on the musical ignorance of their fans," Thomas told reporters following Monday's announcement. "We knew that if we wanted to match those historic giants for sheer lack of energy, we couldn't settle for anything less than total banality. And, though it took a lot of time and effort, I think we achieved that—an album that sets a new standard for trite crapola."

"It's really derivative and boring," he added.

Thomas said it was the expectations of listeners that drove the band to create the most average music possible.

"We wanted to give our fans exactly what they've come to expect: music so inoffensive and indistinct that it could be played virtually anywhere—a bank lobby, an SUV stuck in traffic, a party full of aging stockbrokers and their girlfriends. That's no small task. Even a lot of the most vacant and unimaginative people have some capacity to actively engage in the music they're listening to."

According to band members, hundreds of hours were spent in the studio trying to render the sound adequately benign.

"No matter how many times we recorded the new single 'Sitting Down (Hands At My Side),' there was still a certain 'oomph' coming through in the drums, a loud-ish, slightly gripping sound that we couldn't remove," drummer Paul Doucette said. "Finally, after running them through about two dozen filters, we managed to get that 'plastic spork hitting mashed potatoes' sound we were after."

There was a similar problem, band members said, with the guitar solos, some of which contained trace elements of what musicians call "passion." In addition, the interplay among bass, drums, and guitars occasionally produced uncomfortable polyrhythmic effects that provoked unintentional toe-tapping or head-bobbing in listeners. The problems were fixed through extensive re-recording.

"I'm satisfied that all the watering-down we put into this album was worth it," Thomas said. "My lyrics are super-bland, the bass might as well have been recorded on a keyboard, and just wait until you hear how dull we managed to make the guitars sound. It's amazing."

The band will introduce the album's first single next week on MTV's hugely popular, entirely insipid show Total Request Live.
direwolf74 Wrote:"Our goal was to follow in the tradition of great multi-platinum artists like...the Dave Matthews Band—sales powerhouses who relied on the musical ignorance of their fans,"

Perfect.
Which reminds me.....how could I forget?

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direwolf74 Wrote:Atlantic Records announced Monday that multi-platinum recording artist Matchbox Twenty has finally finished watering down tracks on its long-awaited new album Beige.

"Beige is bigger and blander than anything Matchbox Twenty has ever done."

The release has been eagerly awaited by Matchbox Twenty's enormous fan base, composed of American record buyers who have a limited interest in music but enjoy the act of shopping.
Those are 3 of the funniest quotes I've ever read. Thanks for posting that!!
PS - Does anybody else thing it was totally pretentious to switch from matchbox 20 to Matchbox Twenty? Spelling out a number looks and sounds stupid.
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