[skippy the wonder dog]

I think a country should look after itself first, and then try to help other countries. Bono's attitude that we in North America are selfish people who don't care about the rest of the world is tiresome.

Hmmm ... tiresome ... I wonder why?

As far a someone telling me about an atrocity in another part of the world.... well I DON'T want to hear about it.

But not anymore ... I understand perfectly now. You find it tiresome because it's not true. You care deeply about the rest of the world. So deeply that you don't even want to know about it.

Okay, then.

I KNOW there are millions of innocent people dying around the world. I don't need to know about every specific poor country. What good is it to me? I can't really help these people so I don't see the point in hearing about ALL OF THEM!!! Guess what, there are POOR PEOPLE in North America too....

Well, just as long as you are't selfish, or self-absorbed, or only interested in yourself.

Now you can tell us about your plan to eliminate poverty here at home, so we can help out all those other countries. Because that is what you're arguing, right? I'd hate to think you're crying crocodile tears for the poor at home....

[Lizard King]

Not to stomp all over your post...but we can sit here all nite playing the "what if" game, the thing is they havent done it, she did it and she's a tool. If the Hip, re-did an album acoustic, or put out an all acoustic album, great! Ill be first in line to buy it. I hate alanis moreisshit to begin with so Im kinda biased here anyways

See, that's exactly what I'm getting at. Some of you obviously hate her, not that I'm defending her, but I do like her and I think an acoustic version of JLP is a desparation ploy because she hasn't put anything new out in while that's really hit it as big as JLP. I think that JLP is AM's "Thriller". Artists usually only see albums like that once in their career.

BTW, should have known better than to throw out a "what if" question to a crowd of mostly MEN! I know how guys hate to play the "what if" game. Sorry guys.

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Apology accepted lol, thats cool, the only point I wanted to make is that its more in the context of why and how the artist in question goes about re-releasing an album, I dont believe the Hip would ever do what she did, but if they did an acoustic live show and taped it for release who among us wouldnt be jumping for joy? I dont see the need to re-do an album acoustically anyways, just do a mixed album if the music lends itself.

I get the feeling that the Hip are very careful and fussy about what they choose to put out. Look how long it's taken them to do a live DVD, while many of their peers have already released 2 or 3. Perhaps towards the end of their career we'll see a huge flood of Hip releases. But in the meantime while they're still a relevant and viable touring act, I don't think we'll see a lot of live albums, acoustic stuff, or rarities discs. But man, would that ever be nice if they did.

Totally agree, it seems as if they really like to safeguard their legacy and name, which is of course a good thing, and I think its paid off. Lets see what the future brings, hopefully a great DVD and some unreleased material. But hey Id settle for a few more albums, some more shows and a graceful exit.

[tigerthelion]

I think a country should look after itself first, and then try to help other countries. Bono's attitude that we in North America are selfish people who don't care about the rest of the world is tiresome.

Hmmm ... tiresome ... I wonder why?

As far a someone telling me about an atrocity in another part of the world.... well I DON'T want to hear about it.

But not anymore ... I understand perfectly now. You find it tiresome because it's not true. You care deeply about the rest of the world. So deeply that you don't even want to know about it.

Okay, then.

I KNOW there are millions of innocent people dying around the world. I don't need to know about every specific poor country. What good is it to me? I can't really help these people so I don't see the point in hearing about ALL OF THEM!!! Guess what, there are POOR PEOPLE in North America too....

Well, just as long as you are't selfish, or self-absorbed, or only interested in yourself.

Now you can tell us about your plan to eliminate poverty here at home, so we can help out all those other countries. Because that is what you're arguing, right? I'd hate to think you're crying crocodile tears for the poor at home....

I don't know how to respond to such a brilliant man like yourself. You have all the answers don't you? It sounds like you know just about everything. Whenever you post messages, you write everything as if it is FACT, not your opinion.

BTW, what the hell are you doing to help the poor people Bono is fighting for? Have you helped them in any way?

Have you helped the innocent people dying in Iraq? Have you helped all the innocent people dying in Israel and Palestine? Didn't think so. :thumb:

[skippy the wonder dog]

Actually, the answer to your questions is, "yes."

Have I solved the problems of the world? No. Am I going to provide a detailed accounting of my political activity or charitable donations? No. But don't make assumptions re where my time and energy goes. That would reveal you to be a fool -- that is, if your words so far haven't already sealed it.

All that's neither here nor there. The question is whether you're crying crocodile tears for the poor at home: whether you actually give a shit about domestic poverty in any constructive way, or whether you're just being disingenuous.

But we already know the answer to that one, don't we, tiger?

[tigerthelion]

Actually, the answer to your questions is, "yes."

Have I solved the problems of the world? No. Am I going to provide a detailed accounting of my political activity or charitable donations? No. But don't make assumptions re where my time and energy goes. That would reveal you to be a fool -- that is, if your words so far haven't already sealed it.

All that's neither here nor there. The question is whether you're crying crocodile tears for the poor at home: whether you actually give a shit about domestic poverty in any constructive way, or whether you're just being disingenuous.

But we already know the answer to that one, don't we, tiger?

Don't make assumptions about where my time and energy goes either. Thanks. :thumb:

I'm glad that you have an opinion of me because your opinion means as much to me as a bag of horse manure. :wink:

I still haven't heard how you have helped the poor so as far as I know, you haven't. What, did you give two dollars to the Red Cross or something?

At least you can be happy with yourself on this message board. You can write your so called witty, intelligent posts to make yourself seem important. It makes you feel good about yourself doesn't it?

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Peace.