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#16

day_for_night Wrote:its about a submarine called "new orleans"...not the city. thats all people need to know...

I don't think so. Gord may have introduced it as such at some point in time (ie: "here's a song about a nuclear submarine" or something like that) but I think he was just messing around, as he often does with song meanings. I think it was clearly about the fact that the city of New Orleans is literally sinking a little bit each year. (Very similar to "Venice is sinking" by Spirit of the West)

If it IS about a submarine, I'm losing some respect for Gord's writing (it's not really a big deal for a submarine to sink, is it??).

CB
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#17

if a submarine is sinking then it was probably xxxft under water to start with and there would be no hope of swiming anywhere, you'd pretty much have to wait it out until the sub implodes from pressure.

it's defenetly about the city, look at the first line of the song,
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#18

NOIS is a song about the political relationship between Canada and the U.S., and how much Canada tries to get influenced by the U.S. "Hey North, you're South, so shut your big mouth...."
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#19

tth_fan Wrote:NOIS is a song about the political relationship between Canada and the U.S., and how much Canada tries to get influenced by the U.S. "Hey North, you're South, so shut your big mouth...."

Songs can be about more than one thing, and people are sure to take in different ways... the meaning behind the song wouldn't be found out by a person who is not a big hip fan but goes to the concert anyways... but they will hear the words "new orleans is sinking and i don't wanna swim" which may or may not cause some trouble.
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#20

the song is a bout a dead body...

when New Orleans' water levels rise, old corpses in cemetaries have been known to be washed away...

hence

"my memory is muddy, what's this river that I'm in, New Orleans is sinking man and I don't wanna swim"

Gord is singing from the point of view of a corpse...but the real proof is in the line:

"i had my hands in the river, my feet back up on the banks, I looked up to the lord above and said hey man thanks"...Gord's being sarcastic obviously, and really pissed that as fate would have it, he (a corpse) has washed up on a bank, more proof: "sometimes i feel so good i gotta scream, she said Gordie baby, i know exactly what you mean, she said "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" <--- woman screaming in horror after discovering a corpse...

now, what the corpse may or may not be a metaphor for, i don't know for certain, but I am 100% sure that the song (at least that part of it) is told from the vantage point of a corpse...



do i think they'll play it in NO...I don't think they will, i think INOIB might be more likely...but really, they have such a huge back catalogue of classics, they don't have to play either, and it won't matter if they don't...except to a few casual or newbie fans who haven't heard it live before, that REALLY REALLY want to...
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#21

The Darkest Canuck Wrote:the song is a bout a dead body...

when New Orleans' water levels rise, old corpses in cemetaries have been known to be washed away...

hence

"my memory is muddy, what's this river that I'm in, New Orleans is sinking man and I don't wanna swim"

Gord is singing from the point of view of a corpse...but the real proof is in the line:

"i had my hands in the river, my feet back up on the banks, I looked up to the lord above and said hey man thanks"...Gord's being sarcastic obviously, and really pissed that as fate would have it, he (a corpse) has washed up on a bank, more proof: "sometimes i feel so good i gotta scream, she said Gordie baby, i know exactly what you mean, she said "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" <--- woman screaming in horror after discovering a corpse...

now, what the corpse may or may not be a metaphor for, i don't know for certain, but I am 100% sure that the song (at least that part of it) is told from the vantage point of a corpse...



do i think they'll play it in NO...I don't think they will, i think INOIB might be more likely...but really, they have such a huge back catalogue of classics, they don't have to play either, and it won't matter if they don't...except to a few casual or newbie fans who haven't heard it live before, that REALLY REALLY want to...


*Clap* *Clap* well said
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#22

If TTH won't play NOIS in the States because of Katrina it would be a travesty and completely absurd.

It would be much more understandable that they opt not to play in in N.O., because the events following the storm are still fresh in the minds of its citizens, and the city is still recovering.

That said, I don't think any Hip fans in Louisiana would take offense to TTH playing one its most famous & kickass songs.
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#23

day_for_night Wrote:its about a submarine called "new orleans"...not the city. thats all people need to know...

A fictional sub named "New Orleans," I suppose, since no sub in the US Navy has ever had that name.

Two cruisers have had that name, but inconveniently for your interpretation of the song, neither of them quite got around to sinking before they were decommissioned and scrapped.
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#24

tth_fan Wrote:NOIS is a song about the political relationship between Canada and the U.S., and how much Canada tries to get influenced by the U.S. "Hey North, you're South, so shut your big mouth...."

I have always seen this line as a reference to something that might have been said by a local to Gord and/or other band member when they were in NewO (or in Memphis where they recorded UTH) ...perhaps the boys were playing pool ect. And they got a little lippy/loud and a local NO/Memphis boy/girl reminded them Hey North, you're South

Great thing about lyrics especially Gord’s, they can have so many meanings…
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#25

wow best thread ever! This is great
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#26

Ballgame Wrote:wow best thread ever! This is great

It's true i was excited to be uniformed that there was a new post
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#27

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:If TTH won't play NOIS in the States because of Katrina it would be a travesty and completely absurd.

It would be much more understandable that they opt not to play in in N.O., because the events following the storm are still fresh in the minds of its citizens, and the city is still recovering.

That said, I don't think any Hip fans in Louisiana would take offense to TTH playing one its most famous & kickass songs.


When I started reading this topic, I was thinking more about if they should play in NOLA or not, rather than if they should play NOIS. I think the quarter used to be the safest place in the entire city. (There used to be plain clothes policemen everywhere. From my apartment window, I watched one of them arrest a drunk guy one day..I loved the free entertainment.) I'd love it if they could play there again. But it is not the same city that it was.

I think the people of the city would agree that New Orleans is sinking and they don't want to swim. To me the song is just a commentary on the fact that NOLA is slowly sinking. This fact had absolutely nothing to do with the so called levy system and how it collapsed. The city didn't flood because it is sinking. It flooded because of negligence and possibly even intentional acts.
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#28

Sweet thread! I always thought the song was about the city. The submarine and corpse are fantastic ideas. Personally I think , NOIS should be adopted as the city's theme song and played by marching bands as they waltz through the French Quarter. I can't help but think of the name Georgie instead of Gordie. Hey that gives me an idea for the name of the corpse!
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#29

When I saw them play it in Calgary, I swear that at the end Gord was saying: "New Orleans is sinking and I don't wanna help". That sort of modification probably wouldn't float in the states, it even made me go "ooo" the first couple of times I heard it.
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#30

it was probably a shot at Bush...
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