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i know this is gonna piss of a couple of folks
#16

Jack Straw Wrote:Yes, great topic.

This should be talked about because, if you look back, it is pretty much unprecedented that Hip setlists would be so close to being identical from night to night. Maybe in the early days with not as much material, but there's a dirth these days. The Darkest One hasn't been played since 2003 and Silver Jet since 2004 just to name a few forgotten great tunes...songs that can more than help carry a setlist.

I think it's alright to question these setlists. Especially if you bought tix to multiple shows based on past experiences where they were much more diversified. The OP mentions Phish. That's really an unfair comparison. They just dropped 99 different songs on their fans over 3 days and 7 sets at Super Ball IX. I'm a huge fan of both and I dig your style, but it's apples and oranges.

It's OK to expect more from The Hip.

Agree with what you are saying
But it is fustrating with the hip these days, feels like they are just mailing it in

Plus phish did play that secret set for an hour of noodling fun

Wish the hip would get back to their old ways, Gord needs to stop practicing his dancing moves and start working on singing and jamming with the band

Would love to start hearing the new album get mixed into current songs like how they used to do that back in the day

also what every happened to daredevil jam (when they used to jam it out before daredevil) do they still do this !

Also what new fans are the hip really bringing in right now? I am sure that their songs from the 80 and early 90 do not appeal to younger kids these days

would love to see them mix it up and go nuts

Not asking for 99 different songs over 7 sets but would be nice to see them start experimenting with their current song offering and mixing them up
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#17

EMC, I think the reason you may not have seen the discussions about the repetative set lists (or gotten the sarcasm!) is that the discussion is primarily in the show reviews section of this board which you may not have been visiting.
but there has been a lot. a good number of people are just as surprised about the set lists as you are and many have echoed your comments.
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#18

I am a ten club member and have seen pj over 10xs, same with Phish, Black Crowes, Dead(all incarnations ratdog, p&F, etc)... The Hip are more rock band then Jam Band. They play tunes from the new CD that they are promoting, then throw in hits with some less heard fav's. I'm fine with that. I really enjoyed the We Are The Same tour with the acoustic set in the middle, and they seemed to play rare tunes. I also loved the World Container tour with the covers. Sure I would like to hear puttin Down, the bastards , dark canuck, and many other tunes mixed in.....But I do not think they are 'mailing it in'. I'll give them a pass this tour for all the reasons mentioned in other threads and will be psyched to hear the new tunes on the next tour.

As far as PJ....they are great and do a better mix(esp if playing the same place 2 nights i a row), but they are playing a certain # of tunes throughout the tour....I took 3 random setlist from 2010, non consec nights, and you get alot of repeats. 7 tunes the same for all 3 shows, 10 tunes found in 2 of 3 shows(=17 same tunes if you went to those 2 shows)....All That said, I can't wait for Hamilton..
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#19

rivum Wrote:EMC, I think the reason you may not have seen the discussions about the repetative set lists (or gotten the sarcasm!) is that the discussion is primarily in the show reviews section of this board which you may not have been visiting.
but there has been a lot. a good number of people are just as surprised about the set lists as you are and many have echoed your comments.


are they getting boring
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#20

I was at the Winnipeg show last night - in no way, shape or form are they 'mailing it in'. The band still plays with high energy, incredible energy actually and clearly they enjoy playing for fans. It was almost embarrassing to see the difference in energy between the Hip and Broken Social Scene (who clearly were mailing it in).

The Hip have been around so long, toured so long, it is somewhat ignorant of people to say 'they should be doing this or that'. They have earned the right to record and tour as they see fit.

A Hip set list is like a box of chocolates..you never know which one you're going to get.
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#21

ewallman Wrote:I was at the Winnipeg show last night - in no way, shape or form are they 'mailing it in'. The band still plays with high energy, incredible energy actually and clearly they enjoy playing for fans. It was almost embarrassing to see the difference in energy between the Hip and Broken Social Scene (who clearly were mailing it in).

The Hip have been around so long, toured so long, it is somewhat ignorant of people to say 'they should be doing this or that'. They have earned the right to record and tour as they see fit.


they only earn the right if fans come back to see them!
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#22

Fans are coming back, don't worry
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#23

piss of? piece of? huh?
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#24

I dont care what they play, After all it is their songs that make me go. Either way I enjoy it.
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#25

BUMP
How was the Ottawa show
was it the excact same as the others
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#26

eatmecompletely Wrote:
ewallman Wrote:I was at the Winnipeg show last night - in no way, shape or form are they 'mailing it in'. The band still plays with high energy, incredible energy actually and clearly they enjoy playing for fans. It was almost embarrassing to see the difference in energy between the Hip and Broken Social Scene (who clearly were mailing it in).

The Hip have been around so long, toured so long, it is somewhat ignorant of people to say 'they should be doing this or that'. They have earned the right to record and tour as they see fit.


they only earn the right if fans come back to see them!

their popularity is fading because of the repeat setlists, and the concert set-ups have been brutal. They will lose some supporters after this summer tour.
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#27

BakersBrew Wrote:
eatmecompletely Wrote:
ewallman Wrote:I was at the Winnipeg show last night - in no way, shape or form are they 'mailing it in'. The band still plays with high energy, incredible energy actually and clearly they enjoy playing for fans. It was almost embarrassing to see the difference in energy between the Hip and Broken Social Scene (who clearly were mailing it in).

The Hip have been around so long, toured so long, it is somewhat ignorant of people to say 'they should be doing this or that'. They have earned the right to record and tour as they see fit.


they only earn the right if fans come back to see them!

their popularity is fading because of the repeat setlists, and the concert set-ups have been brutal. They will lose some supporters after this summer tour.
your on glue
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#28

Funny, I've been reading some show reviews from 2002 to 2005 and it's uncanny how similar some of the setlist complaints are. I have no issues with the current setlists on this tour, my problem all along has been the venue set up as it relates to the VIP sections; I don't believe the band has much to do with that problem. The Hip are still relevant, packing shows in with old and young, have flourishing solo projects, and a new album coming out. These guys are still amazing and will continue to be for some time to come.

"we've only got three hundred feet to go ..."
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#29

BakersBrew Wrote:their popularity is fading because of the repeat setlists, and the concert set-ups have been brutal. They will lose some supporters after this summer tour.


I highly doubt it. And I guarantee all the setlist whiners (myself included) will be eating their words after the new album comes out and the band gets back to mixing it up like always. If the upcoming album tour is anything like the '09 tour, there's no chance in hell they'd play multiple nights in the same city without changing up the setlist.
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#30

I have never heard people voice their complaints in the set list department regarding The Hip.

Simply put, I just want to see them this year, they can play covers of Justin Bieber all night for all I care. :lol: Okay maybe that is a stretch, but, I love them and am not fortunate enough to see them very often. Travel and a lot of money is always involved with pleasure of seeing The Hip live. I go for the classics and the incomparable stage presence.
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