[trevor]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

On the other hand, video can usually re-tell a story much better then a grainy picture (depending on who you talk to of course) so if a venue is worried about documentation if something bad happened (i.e. that fire in the US that killed all those people at a club show) then you would think it would be the other way around and video would be banned but not SLR's.

I've just always abided by MAv (and the band's) requests and never really thought about it...until now I guess.

If anyone can shed some light on this, it would be most appreciated. :thumb:

[john cage]

Rule #1 & 2
Go early, in case you run into issues with security.
Be polite

If you run into issues, ask to them to speak to the head of security and wait patiently.

MAv.

Unless it's the Chicago House of Blues. I always follow these rules. This HoB is notorious for their anti-camera policy. I asked the box office to call band security/mgt. They said they did and reiterated "no cameras per the band." I think the people I spoke to lied.

I wish The Hip would play The Vic next time.

[skippy the wonder dog]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

Banning "professional" camera equipment is common practice. The idea is that if you shoot some fuzzy, distant pic with your cell phone camera, it's good for nothing but a memento, but pictures shot by someone who knows what he's doing, with a fast lens, are potentially saleable as posters, etc.

Since the artists own and control the rights to their image (and the profits therefrom), it's reasonable for them to want to control the use of pro camera equipment. This gets translated, in practice, into an arbitrary ban on SLRs and long lenses because they "look professional" to the security people.

Said security people will, of course, completely miss the guy toting the Leica M....

[trevor]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

Banning "professional" camera equipment is common practice. The idea is that if you shoot some fuzzy, distant pic with your cell phone camera, it's good for nothing but a memento, but pictures shot by someone who knows what he's doing, with a fast lens, are potentially saleable as posters, etc.

Since the artists own and control the rights to their image (and the profits therefrom), it's reasonable for them to want to control the use of pro camera equipment. This gets translated, in practice, into an arbitrary ban on SLRs and long lenses because they "look professional" to the security people.

Said security people will, of course, completely miss the guy toting the Leica M....

Thanks!
I pondered this some more last night and that's kinda the conclusion I came to as well.

and I loved what you said about the Leica M - you are so right!

[MAverick]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

Banning "professional" camera equipment is common practice. The idea is that if you shoot some fuzzy, distant pic with your cell phone camera, it's good for nothing but a memento, but pictures shot by someone who knows what he's doing, with a fast lens, are potentially saleable as posters, etc.

Since the artists own and control the rights to their image (and the profits therefrom), it's reasonable for them to want to control the use of pro camera equipment. This gets translated, in practice, into an arbitrary ban on SLRs and long lenses because they "look professional" to the security people.

Said security people will, of course, completely miss the guy toting the Leica M....

Yup, that's pretty much it. . . . obviously, I don't make the rules

MAv.

[Zenith]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

On the other hand, video can usually re-tell a story much better then a grainy picture (depending on who you talk to of course) so if a venue is worried about documentation if something bad happened (i.e. that fire in the US that killed all those people at a club show) then you would think it would be the other way around and video would be banned but not SLR's.

I've just always abided by MAv (and the band's) requests and never really thought about it...until now I guess.

If anyone can shed some light on this, it would be most appreciated. :thumb:

I agree that it's an odd set up. I'd have thought that a decent video recording of a hip gig (and lets face it - Chris and co could make a fortune if they sold the DVD's they produce) could have a lot more value than some photos taken with an SLR.

I'm just playing devils advocate here. We're lucky that the Hip are cool with taping, so I'm more than happy to tow the line and leave the SLR at home (I've gotten some great shots with my A510 anyway ).

Cheers MAv, this may just save a lot of confusion and worry at the gigs. Better to find out this way.:thumb:

[MAverick]

curious to know why no SLR's Mav...

that's one of the major reasons I go to Hip gigs is to capture special moments...been doing it for years...

I've kinda always wondered myself why the discrepency (that spelling doesn't look right... cratch: ) between SLR's and video cameras...I mean, the zoom (for the most part) on a video camera is usually longer then the zoom on an SLR (depending on what lens) so if it was strictly because of that, then it wouldn't make much sense.

On the other hand, video can usually re-tell a story much better then a grainy picture (depending on who you talk to of course) so if a venue is worried about documentation if something bad happened (i.e. that fire in the US that killed all those people at a club show) then you would think it would be the other way around and video would be banned but not SLR's.

I've just always abided by MAv (and the band's) requests and never really thought about it...until now I guess.

If anyone can shed some light on this, it would be most appreciated. :thumb:

I agree that it's an odd set up. I'd have thought that a decent video recording of a hip gig (and lets face it - Chris and co could make a fortune if they sold the DVD's they produce) could have a lot more value than some photos taken with an SLR.

I'm just playing devils advocate here. We're lucky that the Hip are cool with taping, so I'm more than happy to tow the line and leave the SLR at home (I've gotten some great shots with my A510 anyway ).

Cheers MAv, this may just save a lot of confusion and worry at the gigs. Better to find out this way.:thumb:

Thanks. I think you will find that the Hip are about as liberal as it gets with these policies and personally, I think that where the line is drawn at SLR's is just fine and anyway, this has always been the policy, so it's not new. I just made a typo and felt I needed to correct it before all hell broke loose

Cheers and thanks for your support and understanding on this matter, regardless of your feelings, this is the policy that is to be abided :rambo:

MAv.

[rocketsan22]

guess my Hip attendance is going to drop significantly then

Shooting pics was always the focal point of my Hip experience...

[trevor]

guess my Hip attendance is going to drop significantly then

Shooting pics was always the focal point of my Hip experience...

These rules haven't changed...they have always been in place.
It's whether or not you choose to follow them knowing now what you know is the decision you will have to make.

[MAverick]

guess my Hip attendance is going to drop significantly then

Shooting pics was always the focal point of my Hip experience...

I find this comment a little odd, as these rules have been the same for years. I am not telling you anything new. You can take pictures, you can't bring in a "Fancy" camera with a foot long lens.

[rocketsan22]

guess my Hip attendance is going to drop significantly then

Shooting pics was always the focal point of my Hip experience...

I find this comment a little odd, as these rules have been the same for years. I am not telling you anything new. You can take pictures, you can't bring in a "Fancy" camera with a foot long lens.

Nothing odd, I just don't do point and shoot I also never had a problem at a Hip show with my "fancy" camera...