[The Darkest Canuck]

i don't even like kiss that much, but i'm still going to tell you to lick my ass, they have some good tunes, and they really pushed the envelope as far as stage shows and shock rock...paved the way for/inspired/influenced a fucking ton of music...

your arguement is weak, Kiss have stood the test of time, they still have a massive following...they're still far more popular now than the hip are, ever will be...or ever have been...i'm not suggesting that because th ey're popular they're good, but that they wouldn't still be popular after all these years if they completely sucked...