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MattyM - 03-14-2008
Zenith Wrote:MattyM Wrote:I had to go with World Container, for purely personal reasons, it's the only album released since I became a fan so for me it's more powerful for the excitement of hearing the songs before the album was released and experienceing the build up as I came to learn about the band.
I agree with Matt about the personal aspect of WC, but I have to say I prefer IBE as an album.
Dude, don't agree with me, I know nothing!!
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direwolf74 - 03-14-2008
The Horrible Esthete Wrote:Both of these records are definitely bottom-feeders in my Hip record hierarchy. If I grouped Hip records into tiers according to my preference, it'd look like this (no particular order within tiers):
Road Apples
Day For Night
Trouble At The Henhouse
Phantom Power
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Fully Completely
Music @ Work
In Violet Light (with 3 "THC" tracks)
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Up To Here
In Violet Light (without 3 "THC" tracks)
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World Container
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In Between Evolution
EP
Interesting. Here's what my tiers would look like:
Phantom Power
Day for Night
Trouble at the Henhouse
Road Apples
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World Container
In Between Evolution
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In Violet Light
Up to Here
Fully Completely
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Music@Work
EP
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The Horrible Esthete - 03-14-2008
direwolf74 Wrote:------------------
In Violet Light
Up to Here
Fully Completely
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Music@Work
EP
Curious as to why you have FC so low?
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opiated - 03-14-2008
The Horrible Esthete Wrote:direwolf74 Wrote:------------------
In Violet Light
Up to Here
Fully Completely
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Music@Work
EP
Curious as to why you have FC so low?
I would haveFC low as well, mostly for the production quality...but I also think, that in this "overratted/underrated" world we live in, it's VERY overratated....
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opiated - 03-14-2008
tth_fan Wrote:opiated Wrote:IBE is The Hip's 2nd best album behind DFN
Not to pry, but I'm just wondering, why do you think that?
It grabbed me the second i heard it, and it hasn't let go...the pure rawness of itlyrically i LOVE it...josephine is pure fucking heaven...for me, it's Gords best work ,along with 11th fret..It's an album that picks me up when I'm feeling down...
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tth_fan - 03-14-2008
opiated Wrote:tth_fan Wrote:opiated Wrote:IBE is The Hip's 2nd best album behind DFN
Not to pry, but I'm just wondering, why do you think that?
It grabbed me the second i heard it, and it hasn't let go...the pure rawness of itlyrically i LOVE it...josephine is pure fucking heaven...for me, it's Gords best work ,along with 11th fret..It's an album that picks me up when I'm feeling down...
Have to agree. Josephine is definitely one of my all time favourite Hip songs.
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WesleyC. - 03-14-2008
My list goes like this.
Day for Night
Phantom Power
Trouble at the Henhouse
Fully Completly
Road Apples
Live Between Us
Up to Here
World Container
In Violet Light
Inbetween Evolution
Music At Work
EP
And thats all I have to say about that!!!!
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Cookie.factory_West.Wind - 03-15-2008
I voted for World Container, solely due to the presence of The Drop-Off on it and Summer's Killing Us on IBE.
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screw_ball - 03-15-2008
SKU rocks. You people are insane. You're just sing sing sing all day.
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The Horrible Esthete - 03-17-2008
Deadlocked!
Very interesting....
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skippy the wonder dog - 03-17-2008
I guess this means that IBE must be a "masterpiece," too....
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tragicallysteve - 03-17-2008
I really don't like the "masterpiece" title. What entales a masterpiece? A lot of people don't like Pink Floyd and don't like Dark Side. Does that mean it's not a masterpiece.
I think Chris Cornell's first solo album, Euphoria Morning, is one of the best albums of all time. That doesn't mean it's a masterpiece? It was torn apart by critics. Does that mean it wasn't a masterpiece?
So does it go by record sales? Britney Spears has had loads of #1 songs and albums. Does that mean her albums are masterpieces?
So what's to say IBE isn't a masterpiece?
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Shredd - 03-17-2008
my ranking (not counting LBU):
Day For Night
Phantom Power
Fully Completely
TATH
IBE
Road Apples
Up To Here
M@W
IVL
WC
EP
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skippy the wonder dog - 03-17-2008
tragicallysteve Wrote:So what's to say IBE isn't a masterpiece?
That's reversing the burden of proof. You want to call it a masterpiece, it's up to you to make the case.
If everything is a masterpiece until proven guilty, then mastery is commonplace -- which is, by definition, false.
This is why words like "masterpiece" are becoming meaningless: rather than accept that there is a critical consensus, people toss out the usual canards and declare that something is a masterpiece if they feel it to be so based on nothing more than their personal taste.
Since everyone's tastes differ, everything becomes a masterpiece.
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tragicallysteve - 03-17-2008
skippy the wonder dog Wrote:tragicallysteve Wrote:So what's to say IBE isn't a masterpiece?
That's reversing the burden of proof. You want to call it a masterpiece, it's up to you to make the case.
If everything is a masterpiece until proven guilty, then mastery is commonplace -- which is, by definition, false.
This is why words like "masterpiece" are becoming meaningless: rather than accept that there is a critical consensus, people toss out the usual canards and declare that something is a masterpiece if they feel it to be so based on nothing more than their personal taste.
Since everyone's tastes differ, everything becomes a masterpiece.
It's not that everything is a masterpiece until proven otherwise, it's that everything is just an album and a masterpiece in certain people's eyes. I love Floyd and think Dark Side is a masterpiece. My wife thinks it's junk but I still think she's a masterpiece.
I agree that terms like masterpiece and dynasty (moreso in sports) are greatly abused. The thing is - there's no credible ranking system in order for an album to obtain masterpiece status. What's left besides album sales? And I refuse to live in a world where a Britney Spears album is considered a musical masterpiece. But that's just my personal taste.
I suggest we get the word stricken from the language. Dear: English,...