I teach gr.7 and you'll be glad to know that the HIP are considered enjoyable by young people who give them a chance despite the misconception that young people aren't open to the HIP's music. They are not exposed to it because they watch Much Music for their music.... However, not counting the students I've taught with much older brothers or sisters or very young parents who are HIP fans and pass it on to them, I have exposed these young minds to the HIP in music class and in English (poetry). The other day I came into the class for lunch duty and they had taken my In Between Evolution CD and started playing it. I was just in time to make sure "It Can't Be Nashville Every Night" didn't come on (re: the opening lyrics are not grade level appropriate) but clearly these 12 year olds love "Gus" and "Vaccination Scar." They also can't get enough of "New Orleans Is Sinking", "Poets", and "Something On." When I was in high school, the HIP were bigger than any band or artist. I don't know if that will ever be the case again the way the music industry is now but it's refreshing to know that kids can realize the talent and the power behind the HIP without it being fed to them by Much Music and the Powers That Be in the biz. However, do you think that In Between Evoloution is the most radio-friendly HIP album since Day for Night?
patiodweller Wrote:However, do you think that In Between Evoloution is the most radio-friendly HIP album since Day for Night?
I thought Phantom Power was pretty radio-friendly, Poets, Something On, Bobcaygeon. But IBE has alot to offer as far as radio play is concerned as well, VacScar, Gus, Heaven, Nashville, Everywhere..etc..very radio friendly album for sure, well have to see how it gets played, lots of great songs to pick from on IBE.
i thought they've all been radio friendly really, the hip for the most part are a pretty radio friendly band. i think the problem is that the majority of kids nowadays are more interested or enticed by image than the actual music
. ie:
Avril - all the little girlies that like cute sk8r boyz and think that she's punk because of the way she dresses buy up her albums like crazy
Pop Punk - perfect example, the whole genre/movement/embarassment is pretty much based on looking "punk" and writing pop songs. the word "punk" really shouldn't be incorporated, but i guess because the majority of the buttholes in these bands have spikey hair coupled with borrowed/bad/no fashion sense they must be at least a little bit punk :roll:.
i'm not even gonna get into all the carbon copy corporate rock bands out there, because they sicken me the most, you know the ones i'm talking about, the Nicklebacks, Creeds, Alter Bridges, 3 Doors Downs, Theory Of A Kroegers, Defaults, Puddle Of Poops, to name just a few of the major offenders stealing airtime away from worthy artists like the hip and good classic rock. anyway, the point is, The Hip don't really have a marketable image per say, except for maybe them being the best, most rockin'est band north of the 49th and beyond...which you think would be a pretty good angle, but apparently musical talent and brilliant albums/songs can only get you so far in todays music industry *sigh*. it's truly a sad sad state of affairs, ok, that's enough for now, END RANT.
The Darkest Canuck Wrote:i thought they've all been radio friendly really, the hip for the most part are a pretty radio friendly band. i think the problem is that the majority of kids nowadays are more interested or enticed by image than the actual music . ie:
Avril - all the little girlies that like cute sk8r boyz and think that she's punk because of the way she dresses buy up her albums like crazy
Pop Punk - perfect example, the whole genre/movement/embarassment is pretty much based on looking "punk" and writing pop songs. the word "punk" really shouldn't be incorporated, but i guess because the majority of the buttholes in these bands have spikey hair coupled with borrowed/bad/no fashion sense they must be at least a little bit punk :roll:.
i'm not even gonna get into all the carbon copy corporate rock bands out there, because they sicken me the most, you know the ones i'm talking about, the Nicklebacks, Creeds, Alter Bridges, 3 Doors Downs, Theory Of A Kroegers, Defaults, Puddle Of Poops, to name just a few of the major offenders stealing airtime away from worthy artists like the hip and good classic rock. anyway, the point is, The Hip don't really have a marketable image per say, except for maybe them being the best, most rockin'est band north of the 49th and beyond...which you think would be a pretty good angle, but apparently musical talent and brilliant albums/songs can only get you so far in todays music industry *sigh*. it's truly a sad sad state of affairs, ok, that's enough for now, END RANT.
Minus 5 tool points. Good post.
[quote="The Darkest Canuck"]
i'm not even gonna get into all the carbon copy corporate rock bands out there, because they sicken me the most, you know the ones i'm talking about, the Nicklebacks... quote]
Nickelback used to be good, when they released their first two albums independantly. Then they got signed, and started to make cookie cutter almbums, and we all know the rest.
if you say so, i was never really that impressed, they used to be ok i guess, tolerable at least, i could stand to hear old enough, leader of men, and w/e their other single off that album was on the radio every now and then, BUT, even back then they weren't really all that groundbreaking or original sounding to these ears.
patiodweller Wrote:I teach gr.7 and you'll be glad to know that the HIP are considered enjoyable by young people who give them a chance despite the misconception that young people aren't open to the HIP's music. They are not exposed to it because they watch Much Music for their music.... However, not counting the students I've taught with much older brothers or sisters or very young parents who are HIP fans and pass it on to them, I have exposed these young minds to the HIP in music class and in English (poetry). The other day I came into the class for lunch duty and they had taken my In Between Evolution CD and started playing it. I was just in time to make sure "It Can't Be Nashville Every Night" didn't come on (re: the opening lyrics are not grade level appropriate) but clearly these 12 year olds love "Gus" and "Vaccination Scar." They also can't get enough of "New Orleans Is Sinking", "Poets", and "Something On." When I was in high school, the HIP were bigger than any band or artist. I don't know if that will ever be the case again the way the music industry is now but it's refreshing to know that kids can realize the talent and the power behind the HIP without it being fed to them by Much Music and the Powers That Be in the biz. However, do you think that In Between Evoloution is the most radio-friendly HIP album since Day for Night?
The hip got a lot of love from my highschool. We just had good taste is all. (I was in high school last year)
Good work, patiodweller! Anyone who spreads the word about the Hip to the next generation is alright by me! :thumb:
I tried to get my boyfriend's niece into the hip the last time we were downstate visiting because she had found out I was into rock music and asking me about the hip and ugh, all she could do is make fun of Gord's voice and complain about how much they sucked. She's like 12 and in 7th grade
I kept telling her all the Canadian bands, like Nickleback, and she was like NO! THEY CAN'T BE CANADIAN
:lol:
Like there's something wrong with being Canadian!
Oh and she actually asked me if I was Canadian because I listened to Canadian music:-)
:lol:
maybe you are
The Darkest Canuck Wrote:maybe you are
Well, I'm only third generation in some cases and most of my ancestry came from Canada! My blood goes back to like the 1600's in Canada! So, further than some Canadians! My Ancestors helped settle Canada, mostly Quebec, eh. My Grandparents are both fluent in French and my Grandfather has a wicked French Canadian accent.
I grew up 30 mins from the Canadian border in upstate NY and I've spent plenty of time in Montreal!
I was thinking about it the other day and I realized how much Canada has really influenced my life, it's amazing.
thipfan73 Wrote:The Darkest Canuck Wrote:maybe you are
Well, I'm only third generation in some cases and most of my ancestry came from Canada! My blood goes back to like the 1600's in Canada! So, further than some Canadians! My Ancestors helped settle Canada, mostly Quebec, eh. My Grandparents are both fluent in French and my Grandfather has a wicked French Canadian accent.
I grew up 30 mins from the Canadian border in upstate NY and I've spent plenty of time in Montreal!
I was thinking about it the other day and I realized how much Canada has really influenced my life, it's amazing.
People accuse me of being Canadian all the time... and sometimes I just reply "I wish". Growing up so close to Canada (Niagara Falls, NY) and spending so much time there & vacationing in Ontario really influenced my life, too. I also have ancestry in Canada (not very much - I think great-great grandmother's family). But the point is - I take it as a compliment when people ask me if I'm Canadian. And I love wearing my Hip shirts at work because I get a lot of people to ask about it and then borrow my CDs.
Great to hear from our Southern neighbours....I love it when I get to meet anyone from outside Canada who like the hip....When I went to teacher's college in Glasgow, Scotland a couple years ago, I spread the hip around to all the people I got to know over there, and they were totally loving it....don't know why, but the brits have some great ears when it comes to good music, and I still get emails from my friends over there asking me to send them more hip tunes....
thipfan73 Wrote:I kept telling her all the Canadian bands, like Nickleback, and she was like NO! THEY CAN'T BE CANADIAN
That's what I say, too.
I lot of people don't like Gords Voice, sometimes it grates on me too. he doesn's have the best set of pipes in Rock and roll that's for sure. Saying that though, the only chance the Hip had to make it in the U.S. was with Up to Here, if that album got exposure in the states, it would have been the one to do it, I don't think they have come close to releasing an album that has been as U.S. friendly as that one.