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So here's my question: if Roger Maris had to have an asterisk beside his 61 homers in 1961 (because the regular season was longer than when Ruth hit 60), shouldn't there be an asterisk beside McGwire's, Sosa's and Bonds' names? They can deny, deny, deny all they want, but with Caminiti (RIP) and now Giambi admitting to steroid use, only a fool would believe those other guys were clean.
I say they are all on the juice. Till it becomes a banable/fineable offence in MLB guys will do it to remain competitive.
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cferneyh Wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1936592
So here's my question: if Roger Maris had to have an asterisk beside his 61 homers in 1961 (because the regular season was longer than when Ruth hit 60), shouldn't there be an asterisk beside McGwire's, Sosa's and Bonds' names? They can deny, deny, deny all they want, but with Caminiti (RIP) and now Giambi admitting to steroid use, only a fool would believe those other guys were clean.
Oh yeah they're all on it. I've seen Macgwire up close an personal and that man is HUGE! Plus from a former employee of the Padres, he's an asshole. Judging on what I saw and what I know. I believe they are probably all on the juice.
Knowing Giambi is makes me hate those stinkin Yankees even more

Its not really suprise. Just back and look at pics of Bonds in a pitts uniform and then now. Its two different people.
Its a huge problem that baseball and football dont want to admit. If you want to read a good book on it, try Tim Green's "Inside the NFL." He talks how organizations and teams push players to use juice.
No way a scumbag yankee player doin the juice. Me thinks Sheffield is next.
tragicallymike Wrote:No way a scumbag yankee player doin the juice. Me thinks Sheffield is next.
Sheff already admitted to it, but he claimed he "didn't know" it was a steroid. He thought it was magic healing cream.
tragicallymike Wrote:No way a scumbag yankee player doin the juice.
You'd have to be pretty naive if you don't think any Bosox players are juicing as well.
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Ill wait til i hear about any of the players doin it. Why should I think that any of them are. The BoSox dont have any players that have been talked about in the Juicing scandal except for Jeremy Giambi and he is long gone from the team. Sheffield admitted to the cream but i bet he will be impicated in some other shit too.
tommygunn Wrote:tragicallymike Wrote:No way a scumbag yankee player doin the juice.
You'd have to be pretty naive if you don't think any Bosox players are juicing as well.
:roll:
tragicallymike Wrote:Ill wait til i hear about any of the players doin it. Why should I think that any of them are. The BoSox dont have any players that have been talked about in the Juicing scandal except for Jeremy Giambi and he is long gone from the team.
Steroid use is extremely rampant in MLB. It's not just the few isolated cases that have been brought to the fore. NO team is roid-free.
at least he's honest about it...
i would bet that Ortiz is on the juice for sure.
im willing to bet that there are teams that are roid free. Although we will never know.
tommygunn Wrote:tragicallymike Wrote:Ill wait til i hear about any of the players doin it. Why should I think that any of them are. The BoSox dont have any players that have been talked about in the Juicing scandal except for Jeremy Giambi and he is long gone from the team.
Steroid use is extremely rampant in MLB. It's not just the few isolated cases that have been brought to the fore. NO team is roid-free.
looking at ortiz from his twins day to his red sox days i dont see much of a difference except for a bigger gut. Must be eating to much chowda in beantown
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now on the other hand we have Jason Giambi:
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