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Taping at concerts...please enlighten me.
#1

Okay, it used to be that you were not allowed to bring in any recording devices to any live concert - cameras, video cameras, taping devices, etc. It was always written right on the ticket.

Why then, all of a sudden is it allowed? Is it a fairly recent thing? Is it just the Hip that do it? Is it only allowed in outdoor venues and not in theatres/arenas?

Also, does the band not lose out on sales this way by allowing people to record their shows?

I wasn't really aware that taping at concerts occurred (legally). So to the guy I was standing beside while I was singing on Saturday night (who I assume now, was taping the show), I'm really, really sorry! :oops: Don't worry, I wasn't that loud. I'm a crappy singer and didn't want anyone to hear.

Thanks!

Sarah
I was there
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#2

Many, many bands allow taping now.
Check out this site for a very large, partial list, of "taping friendly" bands. This site only allows bands that allow taping.
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#3

You're right, most concerts I've been to have not allowed audio recorders. Cameras are usually allowed, but there have been times where I've had to leave mine behind. I think as recording technology gets more common (cell phones, etc.) that they're finding people are recording things that weren't supposed to be recorded anyways.

I don't think album sales would noise dive simply because of live recordings. Most people are only interested in 15 different live recordings of NOIS when they're a real, true fan who has already purchased all the albums (and probably countless concert tickets). With the internet the way it is, I'd say that plays a bigger role in declined CD sales.

I think recording the shows is awesome, and I'm glad that there are such recording out there for the diehard fans to appreciate.
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thompson girl Wrote:Okay, it used to be that you were not allowed to bring in any recording devices to any live concert - cameras, video cameras, taping devices, etc. It was always written right on the ticket.

Why then, all of a sudden is it allowed? Is it a fairly recent thing? Is it just the Hip that do it? Is it only allowed in outdoor venues and not in theatres/arenas?

Also, does the band not lose out on sales this way by allowing people to record their shows?

I wasn't really aware that taping at concerts occurred (legally). So to the guy I was standing beside while I was singing on Saturday night (who I assume now, was taping the show), I'm really, really sorry! :oops: Don't worry, I wasn't that loud. I'm a crappy singer and didn't want anyone to hear.

Thanks!

If memory serves me correct, the hip decided to allow fans to record their concerts around 1998 (please someone correct me if I'm off here). It was a band decision. However, some venues do not allow recordings, regardless of the band's policy.

I think when you have a band like the Hip, who's live shows are their strength, having fans taping them & trading those recordings, only helps get the word out, (as long as nobody is making money on them).
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#5

The Grateful Dead made billions of dollars because they let their fans record their shows and trade them, which, as srb said, spread the word and got millions of people into their music. Hell, they even used to set up booths in back of the stage for people to set up their tape recorders and such. I think letting fans record shows is one of the best marketing devices a band can use, and I guess a lot more bands today are realizing it.
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#6

Phish and The Grateful Dead have been able to continually grow their fanbase because of fan recordings. And the taping/trading community is huge!

I really doubt that a record label could prove that fan recordings have any negative impact on CD sales. I read an article in McLeans/Time/Profit/etc in a waiting room a couple of weeks ago that detailed the impact of Wal*Mart on CD sales. Wal*Mart is content to use CDs as a loss leader, just to bring more people into the stores. Whenever the music industry cite declining sales figures, they always use dollars, instead of units. Wal*Mart have driven down the selling price of CDs dramatically, and the figures that the article quoted equated Wal*Mart pricing to the North American revenue reduction.

But back to fan recordings; check out the area in front of the soundboard at an upcoming show and you'll probably see at least one taper.
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chris Wrote:check out the area in front of the soundboard at an upcoming show and you'll probably see at least one taper.

Um, yep, I noticed two or three there on Saturday.

This is interesting to me. Thanks for the replies.

Sarah
I was there
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#8

thompson girl Wrote:
chris Wrote:check out the area in front of the soundboard at an upcoming show and you'll probably see at least one taper.

Um, yep, I noticed two or three there on Saturday.

This is interesting to me. Thanks for the replies.

Well then you probably saw us! 8)

I am with the masses in what I seriously doubt anyone could prove that taping a show would show a decrease in record sales. I don't see the logic in that. Like most have said, live recordings spread the word to people that might not go out and buy an album. It is free promotion as far as I can see it and a band would be dumb not to allow it to happen.

Of course, there are those venues that are absolutely against it and that is why you see those statements on the tickets. Remember what happened to that band in the states where their pyro set a fire and all those people died? Well, if there were more recordings of that incident then there were, there would be a heck of a lot more lawsuits then the ones that were filed. I think that is part of the reason for some of the venue's apprehension to put their policies in print.
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#9

Hi thompson girl, I think you were beside me. I noticed you singing along, and that was great. You did not affect my recording in anyway.

I usually like to stay out of the way of people trying to enjoy the concert.
But I do get the occasionally person that jumps up and yells 'Are you taping?'
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bigA Wrote:Hi thompson girl, I think you were beside me. I noticed you singing along, and that was great. You did not affect my recording in anyway.

I usually like to stay out of the way of people trying to enjoy the concert.
But I do get the occasionally person that jumps up and yells 'Are you taping?'
Ocassional? Wait til you see my recording from Friday nights show. There is a nearly constant flow of ignorant immature jerks sticking their hands in front of the lens or shouting obscenities/yelling questions.

On the bright side, at least a couple of lovely ladies grabbed my ass. :lol:
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#11

chris Wrote:On the bright side, at least a couple of lovely ladies grabbed my ass. :lol:

Uh Chris, those were not ladies Confusedcratch:
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#12

That'll be the effect of the shirt again then ;-)
Probably trying to see if your shorts are just as tight :-p

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#13

bigA Wrote:Hi thompson girl, I think you were beside me. I noticed you singing along, and that was great. You did not affect my recording in anyway.

Thank god! After all this talk I was a little worried, since I actually noticed you guys but kept singing anyway. Well, next time I'll know you're there and I'll just lip synch to the music! :lol:

Actually I have quite a few live Hip songs and one of them is really annoying to listen to cause there is this one guy that lets out a loud "whohoo" at least 5 times. Confusedcratch: Yeah, okay, I guess I'm starting to rethink the whole "singing at concerts" thing. Well, at least I'll start singing a little more quietly.

Sarah
I was there
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#14

Quote:On the bright side, at least a couple of lovely ladies grabbed my ass.

they must have seen the photos!
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#15

Oh they were certainly ladies!! Although that second time wasn't them CC, it was me! Tongue
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