09-27-2005, 10:45 AM
Knowing Gords command of language.. what do you think he was trying to acheive by using this incorrect usage of saying "saw" and not "heard"..
It always made me wonder.
It always made me wonder.
"I never saw someone say that before.."
09-27-2005, 10:48 AM
Rather than the listening of the person saying it, it's reading their lips.
09-27-2005, 10:50 AM
maybe he had heard someone say they didnt give a f*ck about hockey before, but this was the first time he actually witnessed the comment??
i dunno, i'm drawin at straws here
i dunno, i'm drawin at straws here
09-27-2005, 10:52 AM
Ohhhh, because its so loud in the stadium, he could
only see her lips move.. - that's a good one.
only see her lips move.. - that's a good one.
09-27-2005, 10:55 AM
Well, he's remembering being a kid that's probably 13 or 14, so the usage seems appropriate. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure Gord has used malapropisms beyond that one. And it's not as bad as "ain't no one for to give you no pain," so it works for me.
Cheers,
John
Cheers,
John
09-27-2005, 11:05 AM
I'm actually more surprised he didn't write, "I never seen someone say that before.".
09-27-2005, 11:39 AM
What exactly does the song deal with? A divorce? Gord's own? What exactly is the goal that everyone remembers back in 72?
Mick
Mick
09-27-2005, 11:42 AM
chicagoblackhawks77 Wrote:What exactly does the song deal with? A divorce? Gord's own? What exactly is the goal that everyone remembers back in 72?
Mick
The 1972 Summit Series between Canada and the USSR. Paul Henderson scored a very famous goal to win the series for Canada. It is widely considered to be one of the greatest moments in Canadian hockey history.
Jeff
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09-27-2005, 11:47 AM
Thanks man!!! What's up with the Bobby Orr reference? Just b/c he was so popular in the 70's hockey scene?
09-27-2005, 12:03 PM
Yes, plus Gord was/is a fan of the Boston Bruins, which was Orr's team save for a brief uneventful stretch in Chicago.
Cheers,
John
Cheers,
John
09-27-2005, 02:16 PM
Problem Bear Wrote:Yes, plus Gord was/is a fan of the Boston Bruins, which was Orr's team save for a brief uneventful stretch in Chicago.
Cheers,
John
Yeah. His knees were pretty much toast when we got him. But my dad tells me that for a 7-8 year period he was the best player perhaps of all time.
Great quote btw. Love the Cesarian rant!
09-27-2005, 02:42 PM
The tune is an interesting juxtaposition of love and nationalism.
The first two verses clearly concern a relationship. The idea that she's 'loosening his grip on Bobby Orr' is a neat metaphor for a boy's awakening to manhood. Then they get married, etc..
But a related theme---nationalism---is present from the start. The '72 goal is a national monument in Canada, 'but all he remembers is sitting beside' her...she is tilting him away from both hockey and a fist-pumping concern with The Nation (both are thus framed as juvenile concerns, I'd say).
It's the same in the second verse, where he dismisses 'crisis in the Kremlin,' 'fake Cold War,' etc.---all the bafflegab affiliated with politics. The country he believes in is 'me and you,' none of that other nonsense. 'Isn't it amazing what you can accomplish when you don't let the nation get in your way?' he asks. That's pretty straightforward.
Cynicism about nationalism continues into the middle-eight, where the National Fitness Program (Participaction? Anyone remember THAT? :mrgreen: ) is dissed.
The final verse introduces the idea of fireworks, presumably of the Canada Day variety. These 'obliterate heaven'; the idea here could be clearer (I never liked this verse) but it seems to be a reinforcement of the idea that nationalism, the nation, obliterates good things, such as a sky full of stars.
But the last line---'isn't it amazing what you can accomplish, EH?' is probably one of Gord's funniest. The 'eh'---another famous Canadianism---amounts to a wry acknowledgement that, despite everything he's just said, he remains ultimately stuck in his Canadian box...just as the Hip remain Canada's National Band in large measure due to Gord's Canadiana lyrics.
All told, the song amounts to as direct a statement as we're likely to get from Downie about his standing as Canada's 'National Lyric-writer.' :thumb: And his attitude seems to be one of justifiably wry bemusement. Gord can knock nationalism all he wants, but the fact is it's helped his bank account by a considerable amount! :lol:
The first two verses clearly concern a relationship. The idea that she's 'loosening his grip on Bobby Orr' is a neat metaphor for a boy's awakening to manhood. Then they get married, etc..
But a related theme---nationalism---is present from the start. The '72 goal is a national monument in Canada, 'but all he remembers is sitting beside' her...she is tilting him away from both hockey and a fist-pumping concern with The Nation (both are thus framed as juvenile concerns, I'd say).
It's the same in the second verse, where he dismisses 'crisis in the Kremlin,' 'fake Cold War,' etc.---all the bafflegab affiliated with politics. The country he believes in is 'me and you,' none of that other nonsense. 'Isn't it amazing what you can accomplish when you don't let the nation get in your way?' he asks. That's pretty straightforward.
Cynicism about nationalism continues into the middle-eight, where the National Fitness Program (Participaction? Anyone remember THAT? :mrgreen: ) is dissed.
The final verse introduces the idea of fireworks, presumably of the Canada Day variety. These 'obliterate heaven'; the idea here could be clearer (I never liked this verse) but it seems to be a reinforcement of the idea that nationalism, the nation, obliterates good things, such as a sky full of stars.
But the last line---'isn't it amazing what you can accomplish, EH?' is probably one of Gord's funniest. The 'eh'---another famous Canadianism---amounts to a wry acknowledgement that, despite everything he's just said, he remains ultimately stuck in his Canadian box...just as the Hip remain Canada's National Band in large measure due to Gord's Canadiana lyrics.
All told, the song amounts to as direct a statement as we're likely to get from Downie about his standing as Canada's 'National Lyric-writer.' :thumb: And his attitude seems to be one of justifiably wry bemusement. Gord can knock nationalism all he wants, but the fact is it's helped his bank account by a considerable amount! :lol:
09-27-2005, 03:04 PM
Problem Bear Wrote:Yes, plus Gord was/is a fan of the Boston Bruins, which was Orr's team save for a brief uneventful stretch in Chicago.Gord's also has a couple of familial connections to the Bruins...
Cheers,
John
Harry Sinden is Gord's Godfather. Harry coached the 1972 Summit Series team, and Bobby Orr with the Bruins. Harry is now the President of the Bruins Hockey Club.
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And if I recall correctly, one of his family members is/was the organist at the TD Banknorth Garden formerly the FleetCentre.
09-27-2005, 03:35 PM
Killer Whale Tank Wrote:The final verse introduces the idea of fireworks, presumably of the Canada Day variety. These 'obliterate heaven'; the idea here could be clearer (I never liked this verse) but it seems to be a reinforcement of the idea that nationalism, the nation, obliterates good things, such as a sky full of stars.
The lyric is "emulating heaven," not obliterating it, which makes a good deal more sense.
The idea of fireworks emulating heaven and burning out meshes well with the youthful crush that renders irrelevant the big goal, Bobby Orr, the national fitness program and all that. But this one thing is always supposed to stay ... right?
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