[VioletlightHeron]

Is this true? I came across this on DhimmiWatch, a blogwatch on Islamic fundamentalism. If it is, its very disturbing....

February 04, 2005
Dutch flag "insulting to Muslim immigrants", banned from Dutch schools
The Dutch have banned their flag, but I'm sure they'll be quite happy to wear the zunnar. (The zunnar, folks, was a cloth belt worn by dhimmis, to signify their inferior status.) From Rayra at LGF comes this:

In the Netherlands the national flag is now banned on most schools. If a student wears the national flag of his own country he will be suspended or expelled from school. The reason for this is that this provokes the immigrants (the muslims) and therefore it is considered discrimination if you wear your country's flag in your own country. Even people who have an bumpersticker whit the flag on their car are harassed and called a facist by the Muslims. Most schools also ban certain clothing like the Lonsdale brand and combat boots with white or red laces. This is also concidered a sign of racism. There are of course no restrictions for the immigrants on clothing.

Dutch article on it here:
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[j-monster]

There's been a lot of tension recently among Muslims and non-Muslims in the Netherlands. I remember a Dutch filmmaker was killed a couple months ago by a Muslim because he produced a movie denouncing Muslims' poor treatment of women in general. There's a link to the story here... http://www.cabalamat.org/weblog/art_322.html

Your story is probably one of the consequences of the Dutch trying to deal with this issue... but I agree this is very troubling indeed.

[Kim]

Hmm interesting, I'd heard about the ban on certain types of clothing, but not the flag ban, thanks for posting this. The Dutch authorities don't realise that by imposing these sorts of restrictions, theyre going to achieve exactly the opposite of what is desired. The government keeps talking about integration - wouldn't that entail that the Muslim people consider the Netherlands their home and as such accept our flag as their own? I mean what's next.... a ban on the Dutch language because not all Muslims in the Netherlands speak Dutch? :roll:

[Stephen Dame]

If diversity is to be the point, and not the problem, this sorta thing can only set ya back of few dozen decades.

Haven't looked for proof yet, but I'm hoping it's a fake.

[VioletlightHeron]

Kim, could you elaborate on the ban on certain types of clothing? Wow, I couldn't imagine any type of ban getting past First Amendment issues here.

[go(r)d]

This reminds me of Italian friends we have in Montreal, they immigrated to this country and now they have this fued going with the "dirty greeks". It's so sad, they can't see that THEY are a minority persecuting another minority...so for the Muslims in the Netherlands to oppress the people who already live there is even more ridiculos.

Wasn't the "clothing ban" against religious headscarves like skullcaps, hijabs and yamulkas? Or was that France?

[VioletlightHeron]

This reminds me of Italian friends we have in Montreal, they immigrated to this country and now they have this fued going with the "dirty greeks". It's so sad, they can't see that THEY are a minority persecuting another minority...so for the Muslims in the Netherlands to oppress the people who already live there is even more ridiculos.

Wasn't the "clothing ban" against religious headscarves like skullcaps, hijabs and yamulkas? Or was that France?

That was the law recently passed in France. If I remember correctly it was a ban against all religious symbols in public schools.

[Kim]

Kim, could you elaborate on the ban on certain types of clothing? Wow, I couldn't imagine any type of ban getting past First Amendment issues here.

Sure thing - the ban on clothing is not "official", it's no law or anything. It's basically certain clubs and bars, mainly in the larger cities, which have chosen to ban certain types of clothing because a lot of the youngsters causing problems in the Netherlands today seem to be wearing similar clothing (Lonsdale happens to be very popular amongst those groups) and clubs & bars feel that by banning the clothing, the troublemakers will stay away. In the 90's sneakers were banned in many establishments cause a lot of the people that caused trouble & fights at the time happened to be the sneaker wearing type. To this day, many places won't let you in if you're not wearing appropriate shoes.
p.s. Lonsdale got upset over the ban - claimed the company didnt want to be associated with troublemakers/terrorism etc etc..... one big saga.