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Early Hip Videos
#1

Long time fan from the lower 48. In all these years, I've seen only two Hip music videos played in the US: I saw "100th Meridian" in a bar and I caught "Music at Work" one time on MTV. I understand that they played them once in a while on the old "120 Minutes" show on MTV.

I recently bought a video off e-Bay that someone had compiled of old Hip videos. It looks like a special on "Much Music" that had old videos, interviews, etc, and then culminated in a live "in studio" concert at the release of "Music @ Work". As I watched the old videos, I started thinking about the Hips failure to explode in the US and had some thoughts. I don't want this to degenerate into a thread on "why didn't they make it there?" because that's been done to death and not really relevent. I would like to suggest one thing and see what you all think.

When we first saw the Hip in 1990 and 91, my friends and I assumed that it was just a matter of time before we'd be seeing them in arenas instead of bars. We bemoaned the fact that we never saw their videos and we'd talk about the videos that WE'D make if we could. Every one contained some element of the thing about the band that made them stand so much higher in our opinion and that was their live shows and watching Gordie wig out. I loved their songs, but we all travel great distances and overcome great obstacles to see them live and watch Gord! In the late 1980s and early 90s, MTV and music videos were still a way to check out bands and new music. I remember the first time I heard (and saw) Nirvana, STP and Pearl Jam was on MTV. I didn't buy "10" until I saw the Pearl Jam video for "Evenflow" and thought "That guy Vedder is pretty interesting but he's no Gordie".

After watching the old videos, 15 years after the fact, I think I understand why we never saw the Hip on MTV. First, as some on this board have already stated, they pretty much sucked. But more importantly, they did nothing to capture the unique qualities of the band. In every "live" shot, Gordie is standing almost stock still in front of the mic, mouthing the words. HUH! Who's that guy? I've never seen him stand still for more than 10 seconds in a row! I didn't see a single video that came close to capturing what I see as the strong points of the band. On Saturday Night Live, he had to stand in one place (probably for cameraman purposes) but he still got in a lot of Gordie shakes and wierdness. I can't believe they went 10 years without someone saying, "why don't we capture them live?" What an idea. The best video I saw on the tape was for "Poets". I thought it captured their sense of humor and playfulness and some idea of what it would be like to see them live.

In my opinion, the Hip have put out some of the best music available in the last two decades. Unfortunately, in the US of the early 1990s at least, the music wasn't always enough to get people out to see a show. If the Hip had videos that conveyed their live shows, I'm sure they would have sparked more interest in seeing them live. And we all know what happens to you after you see them live. Infected for life.

Just some random thoughts ....
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#2

Not every video can be Poets.
considering thats probably the best video in the universe.

thanks for the Americano Insight.

I've always wondered why OAR and cant make it big up here...
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#3

Interesting theory there.
In their early stages they weren't releasing great videos, i mean aside from Locked...But ABAC was a masterpiece, and I loved the trifecta from PP...
As I said, the theory is interesting, but I can't buy it, maybe I'm old fashioned, but even in the US of A, I think good music will win out. So I prefer to stick with the bad management/dumb bad luck excuse for them not making it big to the South.

One addition, I think Gord's contortions in Courage make for a captivating video. But maybe I'm alone on that one.
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#4

I hate the Courage video. It looks like a high-budget video that they tried to make look low-budget. And the wall of fish is just stupid. I don't like the camera "tricks" and it doesn't capture anything interesting or relevant about the band...even Gord D looks "staged" in his Bruins gear. And the side-story, with the guy at the sink and blood going down the drain, is pretty half-ass.

But I agree about Locked, I think that's a spectacular video. I also really like the way Gift Shop is filmed, all the grainy black and white and the "big sky" pan from right to left kind of shots, the clouds and the landscapes, but it's always a disappointment when the band is in it because it looks so fake. They look like they showed up for work until it was time to go home. Gord's "acoustic playing" is an embarassment, it looks ridiculous.
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#5

I vaguely remember enjoying 100th meridian video, just because it was so strange...

but the song is so good any video would probably have been good...
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#6

Twist my arm is an early live video with awesome miniacal Gord parts. As I've said before, it is also a top ten on my Great Moments in Mullet History list.
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#7

As joshwayy mentioned, Twist My Arm captures Gord in all his on stage glory, but so does Little Bones and NOIS (although the latter two songs are him on stage overdubbed by the cd version). I hear what you're saying though. I remember seeing an interview with all the guys in the band ( i think it was around the Courage days) when they said how much they hate making videos. I remember thinking to myself "well then just put out live performance videos!!, no one likes to see there favorite bands act and lip-sync anyways".

Later,

Joe
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#8

I don't think the Hip's "failure" in the states has to do with their music videos. I think it is because they are proudly Canadian. Most Canadians that do well in the US don't make a big deal about their heritage. I'm sure there are Avril fans that assume she's American! Ofcourse, what do I know?
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#9

I guess my point was that at one time, and maybe still to some extent, videos were/are a very strong marketing tool and a way to "introduce" bands. My experience with the Hip has been that once you are "introduced" to them, especially through a live show, you become a real fan. I know very few people (one or two?) that have not become major fans of the band after catching just one show. I wasn't being critical of the quality of their earlier videos, it was the content. MTV was always on the lookout for something different in a new band and the early Hip videos that did show some "performance" type footage were in no way indicative of their real live experience. I believe that a well done performance video with Gordie in full flight would have caught MTVs attention and got them into rotation. Once they were got a video with some regular airplay they would have gotten the exposure and introduction to a far larger audience. That, of course, is the name of the game and I guess I thought in the early 1990s that MTV was ignoring them because they didn't play the right games. After seeing the videos, it may just have been lack of interest because they didn't get the chance to see what set the band apart from all the others.
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#10

jasyarmo Wrote:I don't think the Hip's "failure" in the states has to do with their music videos. I think it is because they are proudly Canadian. Most Canadians that do well in the US don't make a big deal about their heritage. I'm sure there are Avril fans that assume she's American! Ofcourse, what do I know?

That's exactly how I see it too
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#11

I have never seen a "Hip" video down here in the states besides being on MuchMusic USA (RIP)...They could have played some "Hip" on 120 :o
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#12

I think "Thugs" is my favourite Hip video. Got a kick out of The Darkest One, but grew tired of having to fire up the dvd player and throw in TPB's every time I wanted to see it.
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#13

You can download it from the 100th Meridian FTP...details in the Downloads and Trading section!! Someone did a super job of uploading all the vids together!!
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#14

I've got like 20 hip videos on my HD from Hundredthmeridian.com

My fave EARLY hip video would have to be Hometown Bringdown. What freaking riot! ALL THAT HAIR! LOL

My fave videos are probably, in no particular order

Darkest
Good Life
Poets
Something On
Bobcaygeon
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