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Trace of mint....
#1

...wafting in from the north, so we don't fuck with the 401...

Can anyone explain this lyric from Titanic Terrarium?

And since when does this board censor profanity?
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#2

I'm not sure about the trace of mint, but the reason why you don't fuck with the 401 is in the next line: "it's bigger than us or larger than we bargained, I guess it's just not done". If you've ever driven anywhere on the 401 anytime between March and November, you probably get the point.

Through Toronto it is quite possibly the largest and busiest highway in North America.

Cheers

Pat
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#3

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:...wafting in from the north, so we don't f**k with the 401...

Can anyone explain this lyric from Titanic Terrarium?

And since when does this board censor profanity?

There was an explanation for this over at the ol' Burning Church... I'll try and find it.
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#4

I always thought ... you know, this false sense of security that there's all this nature out there, all this land up in northern ontario, northern canada, north of the 401, so we don't have to be worried about the environment so much; don't have to be worried about the bumper to bumper on the 401, the congestion, the smog, the pollution, the slowly sinking titanic terrarium ... so long as we delude ourselves when we catch that trace of mint (nature, green, fresh air) wafting in from the north.

CT
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#5

If you're coming into Toronto on the 401 from the east or west, you're guaranteed big time traffic at rush hour, but if you come from the north, it's not so bad
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#6

I always thought of it as a line about driving the 401 during the winter, December - March. To get out of Kingston, and go just about anywhere, you have to take the 401. And the 401 forms an unofficial boundary for Kingston - the city lies between the 401 and Lake Ontarion.

Kingston is a town that keeps its children at home; people who are born there, usually grow-up and raise their own families there. (This is slowly changing, but in previous generations is was definitely the rule.) To have a life outside of Kingston generally requires the 401, and that life is "bigger than us or larger than we bargained, I guess it's just not done."

Kingston is a smalltown, despite (inspite) of having a population of about 125,000, and people like it that way. 80% of The Hip still live there, I'd say that's pretty much standard for the community at large. In my circle of high school friends, I am definitely the odd man out, in that I left for university and haven't returned.

At least that's my 'townie perspective. :thumb:
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#7

I would buy what Chris says re driving 401 in winter.

Trace of mint ... mint is fresh, mint is cold. Winter air.

There are times when one doesn't fuck with the 401. It's just bigger than you or I can handle.

Which goes to the idea of the Titanic. The only fools who would fuck with the 401 are the fools who would think the Titanic unsinkable.
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#8

Chris Tanz Wrote:I always thought ... you know, this false sense of security that there's all this nature out there, all this land up in northern ontario, northern canada, north of the 401, so we don't have to be worried about the environment so much; don't have to be worried about the bumper to bumper on the 401, the congestion, the smog, the pollution, the slowly sinking titanic terrarium ... so long as we delude ourselves when we catch that trace of mint (nature, green, fresh air) wafting in from the north.

CT

This was essentially the accpeted version that the guys had over at BC.com. IIRC, An interview was posted with the explanation that linked the Northlands and "that pine smell" luring or drawing you out of the Golden Horseshoe, so that you wouldn't have to "deal" with the 401.

Anyway, I really miss that site, and like most of Gord's lyrics: I think everybody's correct; it means what it means to you.
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#9

Funny, but after risking life and limb during the winter months on the 401 between K-town and Toronto in a Ford Tempo in the early 90s, that particular line was always a "gimme" for me...:lol:

A combination of icy roads and fearless 18-wheelers always made it interesting, to say the least! Confusedhock:

M.
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#10

Yeah I have been standing in the middle of the 401 in the middle of winter with no where to go because a tracker trailer had flipped and had blocked all lanes and the next exit wasn't for 15 km's, not a lot of fun. Also got ran into the shoulder by a rig in a blinding snowstorm...managed to hold it together. Needless to say don't fuck with the 401
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#11

Stephen Dame Wrote:Anyway, I really miss that site, and like most of Gord's lyrics: I think everybody's correct; it means what it means to you.

I miss that site too. there was so much great content there. Does anyone know what happened? I mean the content's gotta still be around, just no desire to host it anymore?

If you go to the burningchurch.com there's a simple message that say's it's closed. Why o' why? Such a great site. I hope it comes back in some form or another.

As for the line in question, I've always taken as a gimme as well. I've driven it a few times in the winter and it can be a bitch. Show respect...or it'll show you what can be.
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#12

If the content is still available, I'll gladly host it on hipfans.com...
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