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#1

This was a post that was dug up from 2 years ago. I knew nothing about getting concert tickets then, and since I've learned a whole lot. I'd rather not dig up old complaints, as I no longer feel the way I did when I posted this thread. And frankly, I'm more than a bit embarrassed. I'm removing the original post. Thanks for understanding.
PS. If you'd really like to know how upset I was, just look for tommygun's post where he quoted my original post, typos and all.
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#2

I understand your pain...but I think generally the presales are hit and miss. Only a limited number of seats go on sale at that time. Sometimes people even with HipClub privileges maybe can't get online the day of the pre-sale...in which case, they'll have to try with the general public. Either way, good blocks of seats are available for both pre-sale and regular sale to the general public. Or perhaps, just maybe, the general public will be buying tix for a huge Hip fan as a present...in which case maybe they don't even realise there is a HipClub. I've done that in the past for bands (buying tix for my kids...only later come to find out certain bands also have fan club passwords that I was unaware of, that only my kids knew about, since I don't listen to their music).

I went on TM at 10am yesterday...typed in the password, the security word...and then front row (Row A) popped up for me right away...so I do know good tix were available. It's just tough when 100 (or more) people...like in this forum...all login at the SAME TIME...some people have dial-up, some cable modem, some DSL (like me)...it's a matter of the right timing...sometimes a couple seconds makes all the difference in the world!

But hey, it's a great venue...you have decent seats...you'll enjoy the show!!
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#3

Wow that's brutal! I wonder if that's why the Detroit show floor seats weren't that great? That really sucks!
Maybe they will write you back and give you backstage passes to make up for it. Since they appreciate their fans so much. Confusedhock:
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#6

The point with that being there's a lot of talk about we take fans into consideration blah blah blah but really this is proof positive that's not true. Oh well.
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#7

hey all...
Wanna offer up a few tips I've learned about getting GOOD tickets over the years (sorry if I insult anyone's intelligence).

Purchase presale and see what you get.
Purchase regular sales and see what you get.

Keep checking DAILY with ticketmaster to see what's available. A lot of times people purchase tickets and then their crdit limit is exceeded so they go back into the pool. Often times, blocks of reserved seats (radio station promos etc.become available wihtout notice sometimes. Floor/stage arrangements are re-arranged opening up more seats. UNfortunately that won't happen at the fox as it's a Theatre.

Keep the good seats, sell the shitty ones via Ebay or whatever. Unfortunately this requires ample cashflow...but that's what credit cards are for right :wink:

If all else fails go to the ticket agencies (scalpers) and call them often as well (change yer voice :wink: ). The closer to show time the cheaper they get.

Just keep trying. If there's a will there's way. :mrgreen:
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#8

Hey Sabina, did you get tickets?
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#9

I always interpreted pre-sales as a way to make sure that the dedicated fans even GET tickets... not that the necessarily get the best tickets....

And as for getting raped by TicketMaster... I don't think the cost is any different, whether you buy the tickets in the pre-sale or the general public sale.
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#10

dyersbay Wrote:Hey Sabina, did you get tickets?

No not yet me dear. They were too crappy. But I'm going. The Fox Theatre is an amazing venue, and that area of Detroit is quite cool actually, so a bunch of us are going down there for the day (go to
Greektown casino and then dinner at Jacoby's for Hofbrahaus beer and schnitzle) :mrgreen:
Are you coming up for it? you should! you're welcome to hang out w/us :mrgreen:
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#11

stuckatcuse Wrote:Here's a letter to I just sent to the hip, explaining what I'm going thru. I'm sure it will never be read, but you can get the idea.


Das Hips,

If you read this, thanks for hearing me out. Please help me. My friends and I are really depressed.

I'm sure you guys recieve your share of ticket sob stories, but I just thought this was worth writing about. I have been a long-time hip fan and recently joined the hip club. It said that there were advantages like internet presales for close seats. However, I think it's completely unfair.

Let me explain:
The hip club was designed to give hip fanatics benefits like closer seats, correct? I ordered tickets for your Syracuse show through ticketmaster with the "Evolution" password yesterday about an hour after they went on sale. I ended up with Row F of the balcony. I paid an extra $7.xx per ticket to go thru ticketmaster just so I could get better seats.

Today, just for kicks, I called ticketmaster and checked for seats. Now that the internet presale is over, I can get ROW C??? I don't think its fair to give hipclub members worse seats that the general public, and force them to pay more for them (rediculous ticketmaster fees), under the guise of giveing them better seats. That sound something like a car dear or a greedy promoter would do, not a band.

I know there's probably nothing you can do about this, and no one from the band will probably ever read it or care, but Anna at ticketmaster said that, and I quote, " Its common sense that promoters release bad seats that otherwise would go unsold for internet presales." This is not the way fans should be treated. Nowhere in the hipclub doccumentation did I find a warning that you may get worse seats than if join and use the password. Next concert I'll just shread my hip club card and order the tickets from the box office, so I can pay less for better seats.

I was excited for months before the presale at the potential of getting better seats. Now I know I was just getting let down by the management of my favorite band for the past 10 years.

Please do something about this... I ordere 8 tickets and can't risk flipping them for better seats. I also ended up paying $56 more by being a hip club member.

Thanks for listening,

Sean


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I just checked for floor seats and after the presale they are 12 rows closer than during the presale.

:x :rambo: WTF :rambo: :x
You should get somebody to proofread your letters before you send them out.

:twisted:
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#12

Sabina Wrote:
dyersbay Wrote:Hey Sabina, did you get tickets?

No not yet me dear. They were too crappy. But I'm going. The Fox Theatre is an amazing venue, and that area of Detroit is quite cool actually, so a bunch of us are going down there for the day (go to
Greektown casino and then dinner at Jacoby's for Hofbrahaus beer and schnitzle) :mrgreen:
Are you coming up for it? you should! you're welcome to hang out w/us :mrgreen:

Sounds good! We didn't get to hang out long enough last time!
Damn hords of people! :lol:
I think I am going to do like you said in the other post and see what tickets I can get when they go on sale.
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#13

they tell you before you click "purchase" what the seat location is. If you dont like the seats, dont buy them. AND, dont then bitch to them afterwards. they didnt force you to buy them.

I actually dont recall anywhere in the hipclub membership saying they would give you "close seats". they just said they would offer tickets exclusively to the members of the club. which they did. there is no guarantee FOR ANYONE through any method to get good seats. Some people might prefer to be back by the soundboard because the sound is better. Does that make it a better seat? some people like the balcony.

Anna is wrong, thats not how presales work. The presales are randomly selected around the entire venue some are close, some are far. they want to reserve SOME good seats for the public too. they only sell a certain % of seats at the presale, but they are all over the place.
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#14

This is not directly the fault of The Hip Club. It's more a TicketBastard / Clear Channel thing.

My experience with TB pre-sales: there are a few (5-10?) choice seats (center sections, 1st five rows), but the bulk of them are side sections somewhat close or center sections starting at least 20 rows back (usually farther for shed shows).

In general, the TB pre-sale is used to sucker the novice ticket buyer into thinking a show is really selling quickly so the person will panic and buy seats that might be a tougher sell. This is not always the case - it depends on the band and preceived demand for a show.

Having said this, I wish The Hip Club would have used the pre-sale format used for the Hamilton NYE shows where you had to enter your Hip Club ID and password in order to get in. I got front row just off center for nye and 12th row for 12/30. That's the way a fan club pre-sale should work.
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#15

Here is the ticketbastard policy:

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