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moore's 9/11
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just got home from the movie..all i can say is..wow..no matter how you feel about bush, war, the states..etc...you have to see this movie...i'm completely drained from it right now...will have to see it again...bravo mr. moore
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#2

It's a fantastic "movie." A terrible "documentary." Moore doesn't even attempt to portray the other side of the story, and his tactics are, while always entertaining and affective, more biased than a Hip review written by Lance. Smile (Sorry bud, just needed one of us as an example...)

I'd rather see the Kool-Aid Man in the White House than Bush, and his politics are very much opposed to mine, but from an objectivity stand point, he gets a raw deal in this flick.

Two things got me about the film, and it's two major selling points: 9/11 was so unthinkable and utterly unbelievable prior to that day that NOBODY, nobody, could have seen it coming and prevented it. Hindsight is great, but just because the Bush family has tons of links to the Bin Laden's does not mean they knew about it, or wanted to gain from it financially as the film hints. If you're a rational human being, you can't think that Saudi family members being flown out of the country on 9/11 means Bush was in on it. Hell, nothing even suggests that the Bin Laden family at large and Saudi Royals were in on it. The Bin Laden's have a nut-job rogue member named Osama. That doesn't mean they're all guilty. The way everybody in a turban or head scarf was made to look evil was borderline racist I thought, and more up Bush's alley than Moore's.

And second: Bush is an intellectual light weight who has coasted through life. Yep, I agree. But just becasue he's a coaster who plays golf "Now watch this drive..." doesn't make him guilty. Truman played golf, Kennedy played golf, hell Chretien and Clinton played golf together all the time, and when they goofed around with the press, they were being "charismatic statesmen." Did Bush spend too much time goofing around before 9/11? Yep. But what happened on that bright September day was unconceivable and indicative of a failure of all intelligence/security agencies in the US and elsewhere, not just the guy in the executive office.

I hope Kerry wipes the floor with Dubbya on November 2, and I hope it has NOTHING to do with Moore's film. There's plenty of other legitimate reasons to turf him...
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#3

Well said Stephen. Gives me hope that at least some people see this film for what is. Moore is at best, entertaining, at worst, misleading.
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Stephen Dame Wrote:It's a fantastic "movie." A I hope Kerry wipes the floor with Dubbya on November 2, and I hope it has NOTHING to do with Moore's film. There's plenty of other legitimate reasons to turf him...

..but whatever does get him out..i'll be happy about..at least it has people talking about politics..what's a scarier bias...moore's movie? or the fox network, CNN etc...
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opiated Wrote:
Stephen Dame Wrote:It's a fantastic "movie." A I hope Kerry wipes the floor with Dubbya on November 2, and I hope it has NOTHING to do with Moore's film. There's plenty of other legitimate reasons to turf him...

..but whatever does get him out..i'll be happy about..at least it has people talking about politics..what's a scarier bias...moore's movie? or the fox network, CNN etc...

Ah, but that's the problem. Fox is so biased they've lost all credibility. Moore had a chance to be a credible voice on the left, but he blew it. He's now the Fox News Network of the left. They're both laughable at this point IMO.

Jon Stewart, I kid you not, is probably the most balanced entertainer on US TV right now. I wish Mike had gone more "Daily Show" and less "Leni Riefenstahl" with "Farenheit."
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[quote="Stephen Dame
Jon Stewart, I kid you not, is probably the most balanced entertainer on US TV right now.

agreed...you know you'll get at least one laugh during the half-hour..and more than that, you'll think....
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Stephen Dame Wrote:Ah, but that's the problem. Fox is so biased they've lost all credibility. Moore had a chance to be a credible voice on the left, but he blew it. He's now the Fox News Network of the left. They're both laughable at this point IMO.

Jon Stewart, I kid you not, is probably the most balanced entertainer on US TV right now. I wish Mike had gone more "Daily Show" and less "Leni Riefenstahl" with "Farenheit."


I love Jon Stewart!
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#8

We saw the movie a few days ago..definitely disturbing but taken with a grain of salt. One thing for certain is in regards to the US media, which Moore touches on, the US media sucks..seems like every single day there is some talk about another terrorist threat. UGH...I pretty much ignore the news now unless they are talking about the weather.

I agree with Stephen about Kerry winning over Bush.. not because of the movie but rather because it is time for new leadership.

I am so curious how different the world would be now had Gore won.
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highwaygirl28 Wrote:I am so curious how different the world would be now had Gore won.

He did. Smile
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#10

I don't agree with all of Moore's movie but he has a right to express his opinion. Its his opinion wrapped up in short clips to get his point across.

I think the scene of happy people in Iraq just before the war was way to much of a stretch.
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