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Advance copy of IBE on eBay
#1

If this is legit, I imagine the full album will be on the 'net before long (if it isn't already):

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#2

Interesting...
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#3

I emailed the seller asking if the cd will be shipped to the winner prior to June 29th?

I'll post his reply if and when I get one.
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#4

i reported it as a violation already. we'll see what happens
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#5

Out of curiousity, how is it a violation?
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#6

Well it is copyrighted material that the band is not getting paid for. It's not like somebody bought a copy at the store, used it and then decided to sell it.
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#7

I got a respone already from the seller. He said the item will be shipped once it has been paid for.
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#8

well i was going to bid on it and i would have glady loaded it on to thehunderethmeridian. but now its at $25 u.s and theres still 2 days left its probably going to go sky high. if it doesnt get shut down.
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#9

well there you go. it's a violation
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#10

I still don't see how that is a violation. If the record company gave a copy of the CD to someone (who else could it have been? Especially since it isn't a CD-R), can't that someone do what they want with it? My guess would be that the only way this person can't sell it is if the record company made him or her sign a document saying they would not sell it. Anyway, I'm no expert on copyright law but I just don't see how selling an advance copy of a CD could be considered a copyright violation.
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#11

I think that it might be from someone who got a copy of it possibly working at a music store. I know that sometimes, copies are boxed and ready to go well before the on sale date. One time at Media Play in Buffalo there was a Goo Goo Dolls CD on the shelf mixed in with their other stuff a couple weeks before it came out. When I tried to buy it it wasn't in the system and they caught their mistake. They told me I would have to wait.

Maybe the person has a connection with the label somehow. Either way the band is probably not getting paid for this one, thus you can consider it a violation. I'm sure one CD will not be that big of deal as long as whoever gets it doesn't spread it like wild fire. Let's hope that doesn't happen for the sake of the Hip.

Ive seen pre-sale passwords and advance copies of IBE. What's next, admission to a listening session where the highest bidder wins.
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#12

Well, its surely a violation, unless that person has expressed permission from the label or band to sell the disc.

If they got the disc from their employer or something, they would still be in violation for selling it. If they catch this guy and where he got it from the Hip or the label could surely sue them for damages, including lost revenue.

Hope this person is careful or they could be in big trouble.
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#13

Interesting. Well I guess the way around it would be to auction something else and then "throw in" the CD. That's how a lot of people get around the scalping rules on eBay. For example, you say that you are selling a brand new unopened copy of IVL and as an added bonus the winner will get two free tickets to the July 1st show. While everyone would really be bidding on the tix, technically they are bidding on the CD.
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#14

Someone is profitting from the Hip's work before they are.

I'm all for spreading the word, but when you start factoring in personal profit, then it gets iffy.

It's more than just an e-bay violation.
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cferneyh Wrote:Interesting. Well I guess the way around it would be to auction something else and then "throw in" the CD. That's how a lot of people get around the scalping rules on eBay. For example, you say that you are selling a brand new unopened copy of IVL and as an added bonus the winner will get two free tickets to the July 1st show. While everyone would really be bidding on the tix, technically they are bidding on the CD.



I think when it comes to people scalping tickets its a different concept. I believe for scalping, the grounds are you are putting together a package for sale of goods that you are the rightful possessor of, or authorized holder to do so. Plus the other good you are selling with it disguises the whole scalper thing.

With an unreleased copyrighted product, you dont have those same rights to the item. In this case the CD itself.
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