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NHL Playoffs 2008

I think it was a 50/50 call - it easily could have been called, or not called.

But what surprised me was that they called it at that juncture of the game. I think at that point, the calls have to be absolutely, 100% blatant penalties, and I'm not sure that Begin's "interference" was.
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i am probably in the minority when i say i think that malkin goal should have counted, he didnt go crashing into the net on his own and the puck was in before the net came off....plus it would have saved us from seeing that weak penalty shot :oops:

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They made the right call on that one. The fact that Malkin was pushed into the net is irrelevant - the goalie has to be allowed an opportunity to make the save. You're right about the penalty shot though, I'm not sure what he was thinking there.
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I KNOW that the habs are better than the flyers, and if they can ebat us 3 games in a row, then we can sure as hell do it right back to them, especially with home ice advantage!

GO HABS GO!

WE BELIEVE!
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HABS ARE DONE TONIGHT!


LEAF NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb:
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haha leaf fans are pathetic... :lol:

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They didn't play well enough to win, straight up...it's only frustrating because i don't think that the better team won the series though, even if the better team played poorly.
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Philly outplayed us, Umberger and Biron were on fire, its hard to win when the other team's goalie is hot like that. I still have to look on the upside, I wasnt even expecting them to make it to the playoffs at the start of the year, but they had an awesome season finished 1st and made it to the second round with a rookie 20yr. old in net and a relatively inexperience team full of youngsters, not too bad. I feel for Price it wasnt his best but he still made some awesome saves and had a couple shutouts in the playoffs, its all part of growing as a player you have to take your lumps he'll shake it off and come back next year as the clear no.1 and play even better, Im looking forward to watching this kid become a star goalie. Cant wait to see how the off-season plays out, a few changes Im sure but I doubt Gainey will rock the boat too much.

I guess I have to spend time with the wife now that hockey's over...what a bummer!

GO HABS!!

Im thinking a Detroit-Pittsburgh final is in the cards right now, I hope Detroit wins in that scenario. I couldnt stand to see Philly win it or Pittsburgh. I think Detroit would win either way.

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LizardKing51 Wrote:Philly outplayed us....

I can't agree with that. Philly played best in game 1 and 4, and they played well tonight. Umberger played a great series. But in game 2 and 3, they were outplayed but carried the day because of goaltending. Overall, the Habs were better in every respect but in net. Biron was consistently good, Price was not. Take out the goaltending factor, and this series probably would have gone the other way.

Price was hot and cold, the same story as against Boston. You can't blame him; there is arguably no single player in the NHL who has received more hype and pressure during these playoffs. It's obvious that he isn't mentally solid yet. But the rest of the team has similar problems. Against Boston they got psyched out through the middle of the series and stopped playing their game as a team.

It's disappointing to see the best team in the East through the regular season duck out in the second round. I was hoping to see a Habs-Pens series, and I wouldn't have been too cut up if the Pens had taken that. But losing a series to the Flyers is a bitter pill to swallow.
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We'll be back :thumb:
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skippy the wonder dog Wrote:
LizardKing51 Wrote:Philly outplayed us....
I can't agree with that. Philly played best in game 1 and 4, and they played well tonight

If they outplayed us in 1 and 4 and for pretty much most of the 2nd and 3rd periods of last nite's game then its more like 50/50 or maybe more...their goalie was hot ours wasnt, umberger scored what 8 or 9 goals, out top guy in the series probably didnt have half that..thats being outplayed. Outscored, out goalied..etc.. were still a better team but we didnt deserve to win based on how we played in all aspects of the game. 30+ shots at a goalie dont mean much if they arent quality shots, those shot numbers would suggest we were better but we didnt bury our chances and make the most of our PP which dried up for some reason.

But I agree it sucks losing to Philly, I was hoping to play the Pens too. Getting spanked by Crosby and Malkin is easier to take than Umberger and Biron..ugh.

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No quality scoring chances? You've forgotten all those shots off the crossbar, off the posts in games 2 and 3. You've forgotten Biron's highlight-reel saves in those games. It was Price tanking in games 2 and 3 that gave Philly the series.

The Habs underperformed throughout these playoffs, and Price's inconsistency was the major contributor. It was Price's poor mental game that nearly lost the series to Boston, and the same against Philly. That's not to suggest that only Price failed to play his best game, but he was the glaring problem.

Priority 1 for the Habs coaching staff has got to be Price's mental game.
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Asking a 20 year old goalie to be your playoff starter - and to be consistent for two months of high intensity NHL hockey - is a lot to ask. Which leads me to conclude that deep down, Gainey felt the Habs weren't going to seriously challenge for the Cup, so they might as well get Price the experience sooner than later. If they got a Roy-esque performance out of him, then great......but that's always gonna be more unlikely than likely.

Looking at the Habs' cap numbers for next season, it looks like they can ice pretty much the same team and still have room to upgrade. The only UFAs of note are Ryder and Streit (sorry, but I'm not putting Smolinski and Brisebois in the "of note" category) and their expected upper limit charge for next season is only $35,688,333 (compare that to the bag of poop Leafs at $42,454,167 Sad ). The next couple of seasons do indeed look bright for the Habs, you bastards.
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Im not going to debate who did what or how they played anymore, we lost its over, time to move on, and when next season comes then Ill get fired up again. Although I am looking forward to the off season and to add to cfern's post, I think Montreal will pay up for Streit rather than go after someone like Redden or Liles..etc unless the price is way too high, he made 600,000, this year Im thinking he'll be looking for 3-4.5 mil? I dont expect to see Brisbois or Smolinski back definitely not Ryder, although Brisbois said he wants to stay one more year..I hope Gainey has more sense than that, thanks for the time, go retire breezeby! Im not up on all the upcoming FA's this year it seems Hossa is the top dog to be had and Im sure someone will pay him 200 million over 30 years or something like that, I think Gainey will have to do something though, time to go for the throat next year. Maybe a trade is in order who knows?

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Gainey's job is to plan for the future, and I think that cfern is about right. Trading Huet cleared cap space, and I expect Gainey to try to fill in the blanks in the off-season. Streit they will probably keep, Ryder is obviously going to go. I believe Gainey would have traded Ryder at the deadline, but found no takers. Brisebois is questionable, but they might keep Smolinski.

In any case, the Habs clearly have to work on their mental game. I'm not willing to sit down and say, well, that was pretty good. The playoff run was unacceptably poor; they nearly lost the series to Boston and did lose to Philly. These are two teams that never beat them in the regular season. You can say the playoffs are a whole different ball (puck) game, and anything can happen, but it's not really true. Regular season performance usually predicts playoff success, and thanks to the seven-game format, upsets are rare. The Habs should have made the conference final, and they did not.

Last season, they showed through the early going that they could be one of the better teams in the East, and then they melted down. This season, they continued to demonstrate a poor mental game in the early going, with their inability to win at home. In the middle of the Boston series, they showed the same weakness.

The coaching staff has good ingredients to work with, but they still have a lot of work to do.
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