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Rant - Help me to understand
#1

Sorry if this is lengthy but I need help to understand....

I've noticed that when it is getting closer to the date of a Hip concert and you are maybe telling people you are going that they will respond with sentences like:

"I went to see them in [insert year] and it was awesome."
"They are awesome live."
"I've been to X amount of shows"

Things like that. You might even hear sentences like that if you are wearing a Hip t-shirt or something. Whatever ok, that is slightly off my main point but I just wanted to get that out there and I'll come back to it at the end.

I went to the concert in Halifax on 09/13/2007, my third show, and I'd say the best one so far. My girlfriend who is what I'd call a casual fan even said it was the best concert she has been to and since then has shown a lot more interest in The Hip. Which is exactly what I expect and like to see from someone who has attended their first show.

What is bothering me though is this...

After the concert I remembered that a woman that I know's son was going to be going to the concert. He had never seen the Hip live and I think he isn't really into them that much but he had free tickets. He is 18.

I was interested to hear what a non-fan teenager thinks of the hip these days, especially after seeing a show.

I asked her this morning if her son had fun at the concert, expecting the standard "he thought it was awesome" response. Not exactly what I got. She said that he said "the music was good but they aren't very good performers". I was like "WHAT???". She was like "yeah, he said they don't really talk to the audience much".

I pretty much just said "I don't know what he is talking about it was the best concert I've ever been to". It took a lot to not say, "I think your son might be on crack".

Oh and to make it even worse, he is in school wanting to become a radio dj. What kind of Canadian radio dj is going to say "The Hip are coming to town next week, good music, but bad stage presence....".

Now on to his actual "complaint".

1. Not that I really give a shit if he does or not but Gord did provide a bit of banter to the crowd.

2. Why are bullshit "We love Halifax and hope to come back soon" comments from a lead singer important to this person? I assume that is what he was expecting.

3. Did he even go to the concert?

4. If The Tragically Hip are not good performers, who are?

He wants to be a radio DJ....jesus christ....even the radio DJ who presented the band introduced them as "the greatest band in the universe".

There is my rant. Please comment.
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#2

He is 18, that is all. :lol:
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#3

I think that there is a culture of fans developing that doesn't want to go and see musicians performing their music, they want entertainers.
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#4

And who is more entertaining than Gord Downie?!

Sarah
I was there
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#5

You know, there's a reason why Gord says "thank you, music lovers" at the end of the show.

To be honest, I have also heard this complaint. I don't understand it either, and I guess that's because there aren't many bands left who stop and talk to the crowd after each song.

Idunno about you guys but I'm guessing you also feel the same way, but I get annoyed when, 14 songs later and the frontman is going on and on about how he was out on the town in some village in europe and met this woman and had coffee with her and blabla and so that's how this song came to be.

And unfortunately with so much crap becoming so popular now it might actually become a lost art, the rock concert.
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#6

Graham Wrote:You know, there's a reason why Gord says "thank you, music lovers" at the end of the show.

He also used to say "Thank you, Music Lovers, Music haters!"
IMO, Gord is well aware of the lost art of the rock concert in this wannabe talent show era we live in. I think he just hopes that the ppl who knew about them enjoyed the show, and those who didn't know about them can appreciate the show.
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#7

thompson girl Wrote:And who is more entertaining than Gord Downie?!

That's a very good question. As far as lead singers in music, he's at the top. The very topl :rambo:
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#8

The kid don't get it. In Canada The Hip are recognized as "the greatest band in the Universe". Perhaps this young man is rebelling against the establishment.

One might also want to consider his mental stability, I mean who wants to be a DJ these days? Big Grin
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#9

Gortron, I ask you the question, who cares what this kid thought? Why is it so important that he share your enthusiasm and love for the band? Be confident and revel in your love for them, because for you they are great. For this young chap, they are/were not.

I've dragged my wife to 3 concerts and she still hates them to this day. She doesn't have bad musical taste, just different musical taste than me...and that is ok.
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#10

Billy Wrote:Gortron, I ask you the question, who cares what this kid thought? Why is it so important that he share your enthusiasm and love for the band? Be confident and revel in your love for them, because for you they are great. For this young chap, they are/were not.

I've dragged my wife to 3 concerts and she still hates them to this day. She doesn't have bad musical taste, just different musical taste than me...and that is ok.

Don't worry, I am not losing sleep over it and it definitely has not brought my love of the band into question. I just find it weird that he stated the performance is where he had issues. I am not used to that reaction and was taken back by it.

A more common "hate" would be Gord's voice or maybe them not playing enough older stuff.
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#11

Maybe he was waiting for costume changes and back up dancers!!

He would be really disappointed at a RUSH concert. Geddy says hi and at the end says good night...
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#12

I like banter when it's well done (Buck 65 and Hawksley Workman come to mind), but I think Gord's ramblings and theatrics more than make up for his relative lack of words between songs. And it's not like he never talks, either, I'm sure he's made at least a few comments at every show I've attended.
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#13

I hope I don't get too much flak for this but...

I've seen The Hip 5 times. The last time being the Hamilton show last February. Although I would say the kid is a bit crazy to say that they're not good performers, but I might tend to agree that the live show does not live up to its past reputation anymore.

These past few tours they're playing a better mix of material and the covers are great. Guitars sound amazing, the drums and bass are equally as good. What I find almost irritating now is Gord's 'over-singing'.

The other 4 shows that I saw came from the Phantom Power era back to the Day For Night tour and were everything I expected (which was a lot because my entire family is obsessed with The Hip and has seen many shows) and more. However, roughly everything I've seen since then (on TV, bootlegs, Hamilton show, etc.) has been overkill on Gord's part.

The old rants and his quirks have a certain charm, but sometimes I'd just wish he'd sing the god damned song and not sound like he's doing an impersonation of someone else singing a Hip song. I was especially disappointed when some of this 'over-singing' translated onto the latest record (which for the most part I love... but yeah).

Back to the point, I can see why maybe he thought the performance wasn't up to snuff if the show he saw was trumped by their old live show's reputation got the best of him.
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Haircut-Rabbit Wrote:I hope I don't get too much flak for this but...

I've seen The Hip 5 times. The last time being the Hamilton show last February. Although I would say the kid is a bit crazy to say that they're not good performers, but I might tend to agree that the live show does not live up to its past reputation anymore.

These past few tours they're playing a better mix of material and the covers are great. Guitars sound amazing, the drums and bass are equally as good. What I find almost irritating now is Gord's 'over-singing'.

The other 4 shows that I saw came from the Phantom Power era back to the Day For Night tour and were everything I expected (which was a lot because my entire family is obsessed with The Hip and has seen many shows) and more. However, roughly everything I've seen since then (on TV, bootlegs, Hamilton show, etc.) has been overkill on Gord's part.

The old rants and his quirks have a certain charm, but sometimes I'd just wish he'd sing the god damned song and not sound like he's doing an impersonation of someone else singing a Hip song. I was especially disappointed when some of this 'over-singing' translated onto the latest record (which for the most part I love... but yeah).

Back to the point, I can see why maybe he thought the performance wasn't up to snuff if the show he saw was trumped by their old live show's reputation got the best of him.

You'll get no flak from me but I don't agree. Tongue I saw The Hip two nights ago and they were terrific. Gord's singing was perfect and the guys all looked to be enjoying themselves. I know they have a huge rep as being a great live band but they lived up to that reputation in Charlottetown as far as I'm concerned. Gord is right at the top of his game. Actually, Saturday night was possibly the best I've seen Gord live.
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#15

One of my friends said that he did not like the hip a couple years ago (he was 17 or 18 at the time). When asked why one of the reasons he gave was that they do not perform well live. His main problem with their live performances was Gord's vocals (this was during the In Between Evolution era and shortly after the release of That Night In Toronto). I guess some people just don't like the way Gord/The Hip put on a show, just like some people don't like their music. I personally find Gord's "rants" and improvisation far more entertaining than rehearsed banter to the crowd. Also, I find Gord does interact with the fans at least a few times per show and generally, it is much better than crappy banter. For example, at their last London show in February he asked the audience for a sweater, several people threw theirs on stage, he picked up a black one to match his all black outfit, put it on (despite it being skin tight) and gave the girl who threw the sweater his mic stand saying "don't beat your boyfriend with that" . . . I don't think it gets any better than that.
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