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Thoughts and Insights -- Day For Night
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Day for Night -- released September, 1994. I've always found the producer credit interesting on this one. Mark Howard, who recorded and mixed some amazing albums (REM, Daniel Lanois who is I assume The Hip connection). His first producer credit. And then also credited is Mark Vreeken, then front of house for the band (now sound engineer and producer). I'd love to know who did what tracks.

When forced, I always list this as my top Hip album. Partially a time and place memory. I lived in Kingston when this album was released. I recall one of the downtown record stores was opening at midnight of release day, and there were rumors the band was playing one of the downtown bars. Picked up the CD, then went from bar to bar and a few pool halls looking for the rumored show...which I never found and I don't think every was actually happening.

After seeing a fair number of FC shows, was happy to get a full version of Nautical on album. 23 years later, still an incredible album that I could listen to every day and discover something new. It's a great headphone album -- the guitar tone is incredible.

The DFN tour also has one of my favorite stops -- Kingston Memorial Center. Stood in a snowstorm to get tickets and skipped work. Saw them play Get Back Again, wish I could say was amazing but absolutely no memory of it. Saw the show the next night in Ottawa at the Civic Center, and it was total pandemonium.

I'll do a bit of a track by track summary, but in the meantime we can debate the fadeout on Emergency Smile.

"Grace, Too"
"Daredevil"
"Greasy Jungle"
"Yawning or Snarling"
"Fire in the Hole"
"So Hard Done By"
"Nautical Disaster"
"Thugs"
"Inevitability of Death"
"Scared"
"An Inch an Hour"
"Emergency"
"Titanic Terrarium"
"Impossibilium"
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#2

edgoffin Wrote:... but in the meantime we can debate the fadeout on Emergency Smile.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Can't wait... I mean, why confine such a profoundly important topic to just the FC thread! :wink:
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#3

The BIG one.

Definitely my favourite album, start to finish. Grace Too has to be one of the best opening songs of all time on any album ever released.

Although it is not, IMO this is probably the closest the Hip have ever come to doing a "concept" album, all loosely pieced together by the dark, eerie, murky, musty, dampness that just seems to flow its way through every single song.

This was the Hip at the height of their game and peak of their popularity. Its hard to say anything bad about this album, just perfection beginning to end.

On a little side note, I always find it interesting how some artists seem to follow up their "biggest selling album" with one that is head and shoulders above it, yet it never comes close to meeting the same critical success. Day For Night is a prime example of this, stands well above FC, but never received the same accolades and success FC did. Similarly, Bruce Springsteen Tunnel of Love > Born In The USA, Peter Gabriel US >>>>> So, but yet none of them had the legs their previous "critical success" release achieved.
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#4

I need to proclaim my Daredevil love.

It may be my favourite song on the album. And how about that Hiccups -> Daredevil on the Live10 iTunes series Confusedhock: ?!?

Only got it live once (Charlottetown 2006)

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#5

A masterpiece, plain and simple. No other album in their catalogue reaches the artistic heights of DFN in my opinion (although PP comes really close). It's just brilliant from start to finish, both musically and lyrically. Nothing seems out of place, there's no filler whatsoever, and Mark Howard's production perfectly suits the material. To me it will always feel like a fall/winter kind of album. The songs are kinda cold, kinda murky, a bit gloomy, and full of allusions and references to mortality, death, and darkness:

"Tonight the winter may have missed its mark. You can see your breath in springside park. Coffee colored ice and peeling birch bark, the sound of rushing water in the dark."

"Do you like it inside a barrel, plunging over the falls."

"The nights are getting cold"

"As cold as water through the roof."

"Greasy jungle, metropolis noir."

"I drove down your road, to Hazeldean where I tasted your funeral home's sandwiches and coffee."

"I saw you grieve and grow."

"4,000 men died in the water, and 500 more were thrashing madly, as parasites might in your blood."

"Our conversation is as faint as a sound in my memory, as those fingernails scratching on my hull."


My favorite memory is my buddy and I walking into a 7-11 a couple days before the album officially dropped, and noticing a small box on the counter with the CD and cassette on sale. I guess 7-11 doesn't adhere to street dates? Needless to say we both picked up copies of the CD and were driving around listening to the album 2 days before release. We couldn't believe our luck. I remember being initially thrown off by how different it was from their previous albums, and I didn't love it right off the bat. The album revealed itself slowly, and I had to absorb it for a few weeks before it started to sink in.
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#6

The second last album I was catching up on when I discovered the Hip. Loved UTH, RA kicked my ass, FC I was great but DFN was the defining moment that this was much more than just really good rock music.

Grace, too is a genius piece; from the first time I heard it I was in love and I don't think I could ever get tired of it. So glad to have heard this one last time in Ottawa last year and the performance in Kingston was as emotional a moment as I've ever seen during a musical performance.

Yawning or Snarling has always been one of my favourites and was glad to have seen it on an Evening with tour when Kate Feener sang it with Gord - I was simply in awe; standing there with my mouth agape.

So much fantastic work on this album; dark, melancholy and everything just hangs together so well. A triumphant work that firmly cements the Hip as the greatest Canadian band ever (for me anyway).

Shane
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#7

just listened to this about an hour ago while walking the dog. there is nothing i don't like about it.
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#8

Tonight the winter may have missed its mark;
You can see your breath in Springside Park;
Coffee coloured ice and peeling birch bark;
Sound of rushing water in the dark.

My favourite Hip lines ever...
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#9

The first Hip album I bought on release day - my brother and I drove to the music store together to get it. It was a Saturday.
The last Hip album I think of in terms of Side 1 and Side 2 -- we bought the cassette version. I bought the cd in the spring.
Grace Too and Nautical Disaster are masterpieces...and two of my favourite things ever created by humans.
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#10

First CD I bought with my own money. Got a ride with a university buddy into the city to buy it on release day. Still my favourite album by any band. Everything about it was perfect. Not a single weak track, artwork is perfect, the live show was at its peak, the band were everywhere (MuchMusic, SNL, touring with Rolling Stones and Page & Plant), hell even the merch was among the best it's ever been. This era turned me from fan to fanatic as I started following the band around, joined the alt.music.tragically-hip newsgroup, and started trading live shows by mail.
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#11

The first time I heard Grace was on LBU; to this day, when I hear Gord's intro on the bass (the greatest bass intro ever IMO) I can't help but think/sing:

The sun came up
Shot through the blinds
Today was the day
And I was already behind

The other thing that has always struck me is how well Grace and Fully go together; an almost perfectly seamless transition from one song to the other.

Shane
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gsmacleod Wrote:The first time I heard Grace was on LBU; to this day, when I hear Gord's intro on the bass (the greatest bass intro ever IMO) I can't help but think/sing:

The sun came up
Shot through the blinds
Today was the day
And I was already behind
Yeah I do the same. Do we know what that's from?
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#13

I'd love to hear what led to the decision to record Johnny's drums the way they did. It totally sets the mood for the album...tinny and thin, almost mariachi band. Someone must have made quite a leap of faith to go with it but man it turned out amazing.
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#14

A great album. The Hip's heart of darkness.

It's slightly odd to imagine a band at the absolute pinnacle of its commercial achievement being moved to make such a dark record, but hey, creativity works in strange ways. It's also more or less the end of Gord's really "dark" phase as a lyricist; thereafter he would start writing more about relationships and moments of successful or failed connection (as is presaged on 'Emergency' and 'Impossibilium'), with the themes of violence and death receding somewhat. I never enjoyed those newer themes quite as much, notwithstanding masterpieces like 'Ahead by a Century.'

I also don't think every song is as strong as every other song on it. 'Daredevil' and 'Greasy Jungle' always felt to me like a bit of a dip in quality, and 'Emergency' is just not very good.

The other thing with this record is the way it's recorded. It has a tinny quality that is probably NOT what the band would have wanted, in retrospect. It does give the album a certain tonal unity but probably isn't optimal.
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andrew sharpe Wrote:I'd love to hear what led to the decision to record Johnny's drums the way they did. It totally sets the mood for the album...tinny and thin, almost mariachi band. Someone must have made quite a leap of faith to go with it but man it turned out amazing.
I'm always fascinated with the evolution of the band's sound from album to album. Sometimes I feel that albums can build upon sounds created on the previous record, or sometimes there's a conscious departure in sound from one album to the next. The difference in sound from FC to DFN might be the biggest difference in the Hip's catalogue (ignoring the EP of course). FC was big and glossy...but DFN is subtler and more atmospheric. My guess is that it was a conscious choice to avoid making another FC-type record. The confidence they had in themselves as musicians, and the trust they had in producers/engineers Mark Howard & Mark Vreeken (and vice versa) allowed them to take a chance with this album. If FC and DFN were movies, FC would be a big Hollywood blockbuster...and DFN is film noir. I don't think the film analogy is far off -- Gord Downie's film school experience is all over this album, I mean the album itself borrows its title from a classic film. Grace Too has been called film-noir (http://www.hipmuseum.com/grace.html) - a fun perspective from which to interpret the song and its lyrics. In fact, Gord's "The sun came up, Shot through the blinds..." live intro line plays right into a classic film-noir aesthetic: light coming through Venetian blinds.
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