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another one bites the dust
#1

...which is really a shame, considering he's the only member of the Bush administration I can honestly say I respect and admire.

Colin Powell resigns
Further Cabinet resignations expected

Monday, November 15, 2004 Posted: 10:45 AM EST (1545 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has submitted his resignation to President Bush, the White House said on Monday.

Powell is the most prominent of four Cabinet officials whose resignations will be announced Monday, sources told CNN.

The others will be Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman, Education Secretary Rod Paige and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, the sources said.

Powell told his senior staff that he planned to stay on until a replacement was confirmed, State Department officials said.

State Department officials told CNN that Bush and Powell decided mutually that it was time for him to go.

The officials said that Powell plans to keep working on a number of key issues, including North Korean nuclear talks, the Iraqi elections scheduled for January and Middle East peace process.

Powell was scheduled to travel to Egypt next week for a conference on Iraq.

A senior official said Monday that the State Department was trying to arrange a meeting between Powell and the new Palestinian leadership, but added the details have not been worked out. A date and place have not been set, the official said.

The official made the comment after Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath told reporters in Gaza City that Powell was expected to meet with the leadership next week in the West Bank.

Rumors have swirled about Powell's role in a second Bush administration, but neither the president nor the secretary had spoken publicly about his future.

Last week, when asked if he wanted Powell to stay on to oversee the Mideast peace process Bush told reporters: "I'm proud of my secretary of state. He's done a heck of a good job."

Powell told reporters that he had had several conversations with the president, but would not comment on what they said.
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#2

I also respected Powell but he was made the scape goat for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq by doing the dog and pony show for the UN. That is one day I bet he wished never happened.
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#3

Well that's a shock...see why he shouldn't have been re-elected? even his cabinet doesn't like him anymore.
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#4

Yeah, Powell is a big loss, I think.

The only problem with Powell is that he's always been the good soldier. Give him orders and he'll get behind them, from trying to cover up Mai Lai in Vietnam to the present day. But he is (was) the one figure in that cabinet I had a lot of respect for.
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#5

One has to wonder, if dubya's the "right" man for the job, why have his two top people (Rumsfeld & Powell) and three other cabinet members (Ann Veneman - Secretary of Agriculture; Rod Paige - Secretary of Education; Spence Abraham - Secretary of Energy) resigned or "been asked to resign"?

Powell is arguably the most respected and highly regarded man in world politics, at home and abroad. It's another devasating blow to the citizens of America and the world.

Thanks again, dubya, now let's see that drive. :lol:

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grooveless touque Wrote:...which is really a shame, considering he's the only member of the Bush administration I can honestly say I respect and admire.

Yeah me too. I would have voted for him if he had run for President all of those years ago the rumor was floating around. I started to respect him during Desert Storm and I was thrilled when Bush appointed him.

Hmmm...I think they're trying to tell us something.
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#7

Wow! GT, you newsbreaker... I just found this out now from your thread. Thanks.

And Son of a Bitch... now it's like Yoko without John.

If this paves the way for Hillary vs. Colin 2008... hmmm... I'm gunna print up some T-shirts now.
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#8

Stephen Dame Wrote:And Son of a Bitch... now it's like Yoko without John.
Whereas Bush without Rumsfeld is more like Attila without the Hun.

Stephen Dame Wrote:If this paves the way for Hillary vs. Colin 2008... hmmm... I'm gunna print up some T-shirts now.
You know what? If Colin Powell were their nominee, it would mean the Republicans had had a MAJOR shift in both policy and strategy. In that event, they might be aparty I could get behind. If Powell ran against Hillary, that would almost seal the deal.
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#9

God damn it. So now it looks like Condosleeza "rat on speed" Rice is going to be the favourite choice to replace Colin Powell. Things are gonna get ugly...and not just because her face will continue to be everywhere.
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grooveless touque Wrote:God damn it. So now it looks like Condosleeza "rat on speed" Rice is going to be the favourite choice to replace Colin Powell. Things are gonna get ugly...and not just because her face will continue to be everywhere.

The "rat on speed" thing looks kinda ugly, Neil. I think she'll do a good job, she has the intellect and political smarts to do the job with distinction.
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#11

Unlike most of the Bush administration, I can't even bring myself to avoid personal, dirty jabs at her. She is probably the most duplicitous person I've ever seen, unlike, say, Rumsfeld, who leaves his shit out where everybody can get a good strong whiff of it. "This is how I am, this is how I deal with you, and how do you like that!" Rice is so devious in her every word - whenever I see her on TV, she's so evasive and double-speaking I just loathe her. She really is the worst runt of the particularly odious litter. What makes her so much worse than the rest is she tries to act and sound normal - she tells outright lies ("We never said that") so straightfaced, you'd think she believed them herself. At least when Rumsfeld is cornered with something in his or the administration's past, he'll try to evade the question entirely. The best you can do with this administration is hope that they'll avoid questions rather than flat-out lie.
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