[robert goulet]

I can't think of a more pointless and IQ-robbing process other than arguing politics with the Darkest Shmuck. He has proven time and time again just how dense he truly is.

I had given him the benefit of the doubt in the past, but his grace period is now over...he truly is an uneducated, ignorant, inept person. We must take him for what he is...a brief comedic respite and a look into the mind of the boneheaded majority.

Goulet!!!

[Dilly_sAm]

I can't think of a more pointless and IQ-robbing process other than arguing politics with the Darkest Shmuck. He has proven time and time again just how dense he truly is.

I had given him the benefit of the doubt in the past, but his grace period is now over...he truly is an uneducated, ignorant, inept person. We must take him for what he is...a brief comedic respite and a look into the mind boneheaded majority.

Goulet!!!

Please do not consider this miscreant's behaviour exemplary of all Liberals. Some of us are couth and dignified.
As for the budget vote, I am obviously very glad it has passed, as I think there is a lot of excellent policy in it. I hope against hope that Mr. Harper and the Tories will try and make the government work, instead of just plotting its downfall.
Furthermore, the logic that defines the Liberals as a bunch of crooks is the same logic that casts the Conservatives as a bunch of bible-thumping neo-cons. Sadly, not much is being done to dispell this myth, what with the virtual crushing of the moderate elements in the party.
Another story of note is the little charade of Germont Grewal. This is the same guy who has a very handy little policy in his riding, which has a sizable immigrant population. To sponsor a family member for a visa to enter the country, one must obtain a signature from their MP. Mr. Grewal has instituted a policy whereby to sign the necessary documents there must a 50,000 bond taken out and deposited to him personally, to be paid back when the visitor leaves the country. Because immigration is heavy to his riding (Delta North), he pockets a fairly large amount of change on the backs of new immigrants. How hypocritical is this, being that he is an immigrant himself! This said, how can this man have any credibility at all, especially with the news that he actually approached the Liberals himself?

[j-monster]

J-Monster, I'm glad that I am not the lone Conservative on this board.

Thanks man... I'm glad I'm not the only one either.

I see from this thread that we appear to have some company as well.

[emperor penguin]

How come people always have to be for one party. "well I consider my self a conservative/liberal so I guess I'm obliged to vote conservative/liberal this time." What happened to voting for the best party with the best policies and track record. Right now the liberals nor the conservatives have a very good track record and I don't feel either one should rule the country. It's really sad that these are basically the only two options voters have.
Personally I'm glad the vote passed today, I think it's a good budget, and also theres no need to have another election right now, it would just waste millions of dollars. I heard Stephen Harper critisize Paul Martin for throwing an election so fast the last time and now he's pushing for one now.
Politics has always been corrupt, everyone just knows about it now because everything anyone in office does is put under a microscope by the media. Maybe that's not a bad thing maybe now some accountability will come back into politics, somehow I doubt it.

[The Darkest Canuck]

I'M NOT A LIBERAL! I'M NDP! THE PARTY OF THE PEOPLE! THE WORKING PEOPLE! REAL PEOPLE, THE PARTY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE! THE CONSERVATIVES WOULD PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING FROM HERE TO YELLOWKNIFE IF THEY COULD! FUCK EM! AND FUCK YOU TOO IF YOU VOTE FOR THEM! IT'S ABOUT THE SAME THING AS VOTING FOR BUSH! STEVEN HARPER ISN'T FIT TO MANAGE A WALMART NEVERMIND THE COUNTRY! HIM AND HIS CRONIES CAN GO HOME AND CRY TIL THE COWS HOME (which they probably will back in Alberta :mrgreen FOR ALL I CARE, AND SO CAN YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY...

[j-monster]

Now...

I can respect people who support parties like the NDP or Green (let's leave the corrupt Liberals out of this right now) instead of Conservative because they believe in their policies and genuinely feel they will be better for Canada. I may not agree with them, but I can respect them for having that belief, taking that stand and wanting to make Canada better.

But for people who buy into the tired lie that Conservatives are evil (I'm talking to you, Coneycat, bean... and especially you DC, ya nutbar)... let me disabuse you of that notion right now. Their policy platform which they released earlier this year has a lot of great ideas, including:

* democratic accountability through free votes in the House
* debt repayment plan to reduce future interest payments to free up money for governments to use for other pressing concerns or to return to Canadians via tax relief
* tax fairness for all families whether single or dual-income
* commitments to improve the environment via clean air, water and alternative energy initiatives
* stable health care funding to provinces and allow full flexibility of delivery to ensure all Canadians have timely access for their health care needs
* will NOT support changing legislation on abortion
* respecting the traditional definition of marriage while granting civil unions and full equal rights to gay couples (equivalent legislation to most liberal European societies)
* allow parents to determine care needs of their children
* supports gender equality
* clear policies to support seniors, a growing component of our population
* change criminal justice system to prevent crime and emphasize the rights and needs of victims
* support of bilingualism and multiculturalism
* fair immigration policies, including process for skilled immigrants to obtain equivalency for their international skills, training and experience

Doesn't sound too scary, does it? The full policy book is here, and I would encourage everyone to check it out... http://www.conservative-own.ca/documents...031905.pdf

I would be remiss if I did not add that the fact I feel the need to do this speaks to one of the failures of the Conservative Party right now... their inability to promote, explain and sell their policies to Canadians. Repeating the fact that Liberals are corrupt, while true, is not enough to connect with many Canadians, which is why polls show that the support levels of the Conservatives have remained stagnant. Perhaps their will be a silver lining in the lost vote of confidence tonight... maybe Harper and his team will get moving and promote their policies to Canadians.

Give them a reason to vote FOR your party, instead of just reasons to NOT vote for someone else... whether the Conservatives can successfully manage that will be the deciding factor in the next election, whenever it is.

[The Darkest Canuck]

but you see, it's the Conservative policies that i find to be so "evil", they just aren't socially responsible enough to lead, shape, and mold the country, and reprent us on a global level, they're too AMERICAN for me, maybe it's all that Alberta oil money...

[cferneyh]

but you see, it's the Conservative policies that i find to be so "evil", they just aren't socially responsible enough to lead, shape, and mold the country, and reprent us on a global level, they're too AMERICAN for me, maybe it's all that Alberta oil money...

And what, exactly, are the "evil" Conservative policies? Instead of speaking in generalities, get specific. Because if there's someone who should be heard, it's a guy who failed grade nine, a guy who says things along the lines of "fuck you if you aren't with me" (while at the same time ripping into Bush for displaying that very attitude), and a guy who has alienated pretty much every regular poster at a TRAGICALLY HIP FAN WEBSITE. Please DC, enlighten me as to how the country should be run from your ignorant, myopic, and dimwitted viewpoint.

(This should be rich........)

[The Darkest Canuck]

well, if i was in charge, the first thing i'd do would be deport you to some shithole in the middle east where you'd be tortured and sodomized...


then i'd let the NDP take oer from there 8)

[cferneyh]

well, if i was in charge, the first thing i'd do would be deport you to some shithole in the middle east where you'd be tortured and sodomized...

If you were in charge? You aren't even in charge of your own bedroom.

And thanks for proving my point. Assclown.

[j-monster]

well, if i was in charge, the first thing i'd do would be deport you to some shithole in the middle east where you'd be tortured and sodomized...

If you were in charge? You aren't even in charge of your own bedroom.

And thanks for proving my point. Assclown.

Damn that was funny. Everytime I think DC has reached the lowest depths of stupidity, he mouths off again and reaches just a little bit further down.

And he supports the NDP? I don't know if Smilin' Jack would even want him as a supporter! Although I guess beggars can't be choosers, really...

[Dilly_sAm]

well, if i was in charge, the first thing i'd do would be deport you to some shithole in the middle east where you'd be tortured and sodomized...


then i'd let the NDP take oer from there 8)

I think it fair to say you are the most obsequious (you'll have to look that one up) person who has ever posted anything on any website. You blast the Conservatives on how they are not "socially responsible" and how they aren't capable of representing us on a "global level". I doubt the Conservatives would brand a beautiful, diverse, albeit troubled region of the world a "shithole", or infer that people there are "sodomized" and "tortured". Although I am no Tory, I respect the right of someone like J-Monster or Fingernailsonhull's opinion because they express it in a reasonable, non-offensive manner. The only personal attacks they ever resort to are defensive, and against you, and are merited. I can see you have no grasp of decorum or honour in politics, something your NDP are very given to. Although I am no NDP, I applaud MP McDonough for her daily chastising of the rest of the House on their poor behaviour. You profess your distaste for "American" policies without realising the implications of your words; you are painting an entire country with one brush. Imagine that a more progressive country (say, the Netherlands) was trying to pass a conservative law, and people there pointed at it and said "We don't like it, its too Canadian", that they would be assuming that all Canadians, you included, were Conservatives. How would you like that?

I would also like to point out that the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party instituted universal health care in Saskatchewan, but that it was applied to the rest of the country with the passing of the “The Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act (1957)” (Diefenbaker, PC) and the “Medical Care Act (1968)” (Pearson, Lib). What laws have the federal NDP passed?

[beanmedic]

I'M NOT A LIBERAL! I'M NDP! THE PARTY OF THE PEOPLE! THE WORKING PEOPLE! REAL PEOPLE, THE PARTY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE! THE CONSERVATIVES WOULD PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING FROM HERE TO YELLOWKNIFE IF THEY COULD! f**k EM! AND f**k YOU TOO IF YOU VOTE FOR THEM! IT'S ABOUT THE SAME THING AS VOTING FOR BUSH! STEVEN HARPER ISN'T FIT TO MANAGE A WALMART NEVERMIND THE COUNTRY! HIM AND HIS CRONIES CAN GO HOME AND CRY TIL THE COWS HOME (which they probably will back in Alberta :mrgreen FOR ALL I CARE, AND SO CAN YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY...

Wow. I agree. :thumb:

[prz]

I'M NOT A LIBERAL! I'M NDP! THE PARTY OF THE PEOPLE! THE WORKING PEOPLE! REAL PEOPLE, THE PARTY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE! THE CONSERVATIVES WOULD PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING FROM HERE TO YELLOWKNIFE IF THEY COULD! f**k EM! AND f**k YOU TOO IF YOU VOTE FOR THEM! IT'S ABOUT THE SAME THING AS VOTING FOR BUSH! STEVEN HARPER ISN'T FIT TO MANAGE A WALMART NEVERMIND THE COUNTRY! HIM AND HIS CRONIES CAN GO HOME AND CRY TIL THE COWS HOME (which they probably will back in Alberta :mrgreen FOR ALL I CARE, AND SO CAN YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY...

Well if the conservatives are so pro private health care, how come Quebec which has no conservative government leads the country in being home to the most private health care clinics? I guess you as a typical left wing socialists forgot to look into that before making your ignorant post.

As for going to cry in Alberta with the cows, you should check out their province. If you get sick in this country its the best province to be in. You will be taken care of the quickest under universal health care.

[direwolf74]

well, if i was in charge, the first thing i'd do would be deport you to some shithole in the middle east where you'd be tortured and sodomized...

If you were in charge? You aren't even in charge of your own bedroom.

And thanks for proving my point. Assclown.

LOL! :thumb: