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Where is the new album rumours and speculation?
#46

LizardKing51 Wrote:TDC is entitled to his opinion, but I think where he goes off is thinking that because he doesnt like something that it must be bad. Im a big OLP fan and I dont see how they've fallen apart, HIPT is a fantastic album it was what I was hoping for and it really hasnt gotten its due I think, nothing tops Spiritual Machines though.

Spiritual Machines? you've got to be kidding me (sadly i know you're not)...

it's not bad music because i don't like it, i don't like it, because it's bad music...this coming from a former HARDCORE fan...i was hooked instantly when Naveed came out, i bought it like 3 days after its release, and could not stop listening to it for years to come...when Clumsy came out, I, along with the rest of the country, was blown away...with Hapiness i was quite pleased to see them taking the music in new exciting directions, although i was starting to worry that Raine was getting too whineyfor even my liking, but it was a great album, so i didn't mind...Spiritual Machines was a huge let down...for a couple reasons:

-the first single (In Repair) was soooo good IMO, that when i listened to the rest of the album, it was quite underwhelming, the only other track that appealed to me as much, was Right Behind You, which was the song right before it...so it made for a really poor listen as an entire album...

-the concept was cool, and the art was cool, and the samples were cool, but the songs were weak, and instead of having the art and sampling add to the music, it seemed more the other way around, where really, the album would've been a completely boring mess without all that "glue" holding it together...but, i did like the concept (even though Spiritual Machines seemed to really be stepping on "Machina: And The Machines Of God" as far as an album title goes, especially seeing as Corgan even called them on shall we say "Borrowing" elements of their sound from the Pumpkins (that's a whole different can of worms though))


Their last good song was "Whatever", which really, they barely even wrote, because it was just a reworked version of Chris Benoit's theme...

Then they released Gravity, a shameless attempt to garner mass appeal...and i guess it worked, because they suckered some of you guys in...no more Arnold Lanni, no more Mike Turner, they even got rid of Sol, and instead put a picture of themselves on the album cover...are you kidding me? that is the lamest shit ever...which is probably why the hip have never done that again, and any self respecting band wouldn't ...that's what cheesy top 40 artists do...like 50 Cent, and Shakira...oh wait, they are cheesy top 40 artists now...hunka hunka stinky cheese, the cheese stands alone.
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#47

The Darkest Canuck Wrote:
LizardKing51 Wrote:TDC is entitled to his opinion, but I think where he goes off is thinking that because he doesnt like something that it must be bad. Im a big OLP fan and I dont see how they've fallen apart, HIPT is a fantastic album it was what I was hoping for and it really hasnt gotten its due I think, nothing tops Spiritual Machines though.

Spiritual Machines? you've got to be kidding me (sadly i know you're not)...

it's not bad music because i don't like it, i don't like it, because it's bad music...this coming from a former HARDCORE fan...i was hooked instantly when Naveed came out, i bought it like 3 days after its release, and could not stop listening to it for years to come...when Clumsy came out, I, along with the rest of the country, was blown away...with Hapiness i was quite pleased to see them taking the music in new exciting directions, although i was starting to worry that Raine was getting too whineyfor even my liking, but it was a great album, so i didn't mind...Spiritual Machines was a huge let down...for a couple reasons:

-the first single (In Repair) was soooo good IMO, that when i listened to the rest of the album, it was quite underwhelming, the only other track that appealed to me as much, was Right Behind You, which was the song right before it...so it made for a really poor listen as an entire album...

-the concept was cool, and the art was cool, and the samples were cool, but the songs were weak, and instead of having the art and sampling add to the music, it seemed more the other way around, where really, the album would've been a completely boring mess without all that "glue" holding it together...but, i did like the concept (even though Spiritual Machines seemed to really be stepping on "Machina: And The Machines Of God" as far as an album title goes, especially seeing as Corgan even called them on shall we say "Borrowing" elements of their sound from the Pumpkins (that's a whole different can of worms though))


Their last good song was "Whatever", which really, they barely even wrote, because it was just a reworked version of Chris Benoit's theme...

Then they released Gravity, a shameless attempt to garner mass appeal...and i guess it worked, because they suckered some of you guys in...no more Arnold Lanni, no more Mike Turner, they even got rid of Sol, and instead put a picture of themselves on the album cover...are you kidding me? that is the lamest shit ever...which is probably why the hip have never done that again, and any self respecting band wouldn't ...that's what cheesy top 40 artists do...like 50 Cent, and Shakira...oh wait, they are cheesy top 40 artists now...hunka hunka stinky cheese, the cheese stands alone.



Ok guys I think this argument has just been ended.

I mean... considering that this guy considers pictures of the band members on the album cover a telltale sign of a lack of musical talent, really... how can any of us go on arguing in this thread?

Give me a break. You sir are a prime example of a bitter old "music fan" who says that everything new, everything that's not old school is garbage. You people that are afraid of change make me sick. Just like the all those people that say "METALLICA SUCKED AFTER 1985 WHEN THEY SOLD MORE THAN 100 RECORDS".

The fact that you consider 'Right Behind You (Mafia)' one of the top 2 songs on SM even further proves that you don't know much about music.

I agree with that other guy. Spiritual Machines is incredible. It may be their best album. Middle of Yesterday is awesome. Are You Sad? (especially from the Live album) is unreal. Made to Heal... ALL MY FRIENDS!!!!

Everyone's a Junkie: That song has some fucking killer bass work... I don't think TTH have any stuff with bass work as awesome as that. *Granted, I don't play bass so I don't know about the technical difficulty of it, but it is one sweet fucking groovy bass song.
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#48

I really enjoy OLP...
and I must say that Spiritual Machines is my favourite as well...

But, I guess maybe I should embrace my Mod duties and point out to anyone that this topic isn't about Our Lady Peace. Anybody here is more than welcome to start a discussion about this in the non-Tragically Hip section.

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#49

i believe that spiritual machines is their best work.
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#50

No, it's strictly because Our Lady Peace suck...they used to be good, and now they suck...pretty simple...can you wrap your head around that? o h wait, no, you still listen to OLP...tisk tisk.

Bruce Springsteen, Smashing Pumpkins, Tragically Hip, Pearl Jam, yadda yadda yadda, there's countless bands who just seem to continue to top themselves each time out...

but w/e, if not liking Our Lady Peace means i "don't know about good music", i'd rather not know about "good music", you can have it all for yourself buddy...just make sure you use headphones, so nobody else has to listen to it.

i didn't say top 2, i said it appealed to me to me more...so, you're wrong again...nice attempt to use my own words against me though...how clever :roll: ...

yes, i'm so old and bitter...haha...wait, no...that's "Cfer" you're thinking of (hehehehehe)...

Rush has "fucking killer bass work"

Primus has "fucking killer bass work"

OLP...well, they have a bass player...he doesn't suck...i suppose that's a plus...


Go ahead and settle for mediocrity if you'd like, just don't try to shine a turd and pass it off on me as gold...because no matter how much you shine that turd, it's still just a steamy pile of shit in the end.
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#51

sean.bonner Wrote:I really enjoy OLP...
and I must say that Spiritual Machines is my favourite as well...

But, I guess maybe I should embrace my Mod duties and point out to anyone that this topic isn't about Our Lady Peace. Anybody here is more than welcome to start a discussion about this in the non-Tragically Hip section.

"embrace my mod duties".....you really are a knob.

the converstation has evolved to this point, so what. are we dragging down the integrity of the "tragically hip discussion" area...boo hoo.

get over yourself, who cares?
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#52

LizardKing51 Wrote:
BDS28 Wrote:
chris Wrote:www.dimeadozen.org - it's a Bit Torrent tracker for sharing live music.

I don't know much about this site but I don't see what this has to do with Metallica? There are hundreds of torrent sites and trackers around. I've seen Metallica bootlegs a millions times.

What was the point in asking about this? My point was that Metallica records and offers every single one of their shows to their fans, that they allowed fans to bring taping equipment into a special, sectioned off area near the stage absolutely free back as early as the early 1980s.

..the point was that Zenith was just wondering why Metallica shows arent allowed to shared on dime, considering that all the shows are allowed to be taped

Exactly that, Thanks LizardKing51.

BDS28, I was only wondering why Metallica stuff was banned from Dime if they are taper-friendly. This wasn't meant as a dig at you or the band, just a general wondering. Skippy's right, it is really a question for the people that run Dime, and it probably did get lumped in with the Napster thing but it was just something that sprung to mind whilst I was reading your post.

Yes, there are hundreds of trackers around, but for live music Dime is one of the biggest and it seems odd that if the bands taping policy is so positive (towards taping) why you can't share them on Dime.

Anyway, I won't derail this thread further (sorry Sean). I'd be happy to carry on this discussion elsewhere though as it's interesting.
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#53

The Darkest Canuck Wrote:
LizardKing51 Wrote:TDC is entitled to his opinion, but I think where he goes off is thinking that because he doesnt like something that it must be bad. Im a big OLP fan and I dont see how they've fallen apart, HIPT is a fantastic album it was what I was hoping for and it really hasnt gotten its due I think, nothing tops Spiritual Machines though.

Spiritual Machines? you've got to be kidding me (sadly i know you're not)...

I like Spiritual Machines best...so what? Im not allowed to have a favorite OLP album? Geez, thats the old TDC talking, come on meet me halfway here, its a fantastic concept album..dare I say one of the best. I hear your points, I get where your coming from but I still think you've missed the mark, HIPT is proof of how good they still are, great album.
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#54

Zenith Wrote:Anyway, I won't derail this thread further (sorry Sean)

..oh god I think i just heard his head pop
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#55

LizardKing51 Wrote:
The Darkest Canuck Wrote:Spiritual Machines? you've got to be kidding me (sadly i know you're not)...

I like Spiritual Machines best...so what? Im not allowed to have a favorite OLP album? Geez, thats the old TDC talking, come on meet me halfway here, its a fantastic concept album..dare I say one of the best. I hear your points, I get where your coming from but I still think you've missed the mark, HIPT is proof of how good they still are, great album.


It's a concept album, and it's adecent concept, but most certainly not an amazing concept album...The Wall is an "amazing" concept album...Lateralus is an "amazing" concept album...Spiritual Machines is a concept album, it's ok, i love concept albums, and i was glad to see them make the attempt, but it was poorly executed, and just plain weak in comparison to all of their previous efforts.
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#56

WesleyC. Wrote:Uhhhh screw Bob Rock, Lets vote they get Daniel Lanois. That would be a very good mix.

Amen to Lanois.
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#57

sundin13 Wrote:
WesleyC. Wrote:Uhhhh screw Bob Rock, Lets vote they get Daniel Lanois. That would be a very good mix.

Amen to Lanois.


Lanois and the Hip would indeed be a cool pairing. They've already worked with Lanois' protege Mark Howard on Day for Night, and the result was an undisputed masterpiece.
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#58

sundin13 Wrote:
WesleyC. Wrote:Uhhhh screw Bob Rock, Lets vote they get Daniel Lanois. That would be a very good mix.

Amen to Lanois.

Actually, I would love for them to work with Lanois Light again - Mark Howard.

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#59

Just to summarize for anyone who doesn't want to read a few pages of bitching:
- Some people like Metallica. Some people don't.
- Some people like Our Lady Peace. Some people don't.
- Some people like The Hip. Some people don't.
- One guy really doesn't care for Sean Bonner.
- Some people think one albums are better than another. Some people think another album is better.
- Everyone is wrong except for me.

There. Procede...
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#60

i don't think anyone has disagreed on one key thing though....


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