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Yeah, i thought he did a great job too. Got them to go into different directions then they normally would have, and you can tell that he really pushed people (especially Gord's voice, see: Fly) to work at their most chaotic, usually with greatly success.
I agree about WC (unfortunate abbreviation - oh, i mean the song), and Pretend. Rock is a leftover from the 80's, and while he seems to have grown out of that sound for loud songs, there's still something too 80's about the quieter songs on the album...
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They're just performing much more tightly, exactly like they were doing on the new record. It's the "new Hip", man.
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For the next album:
If I had to choose between "Bob Rock" and "No album" I'd choose "Bob Rock".
If I had to choose between "Bob Rock" and "Other" I'd pick "Other".
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Rock's a talented, accomplished producer. Why do we all assume that because he did one thing with the band for their last album that he wouldn't do something else for the next one?
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Bob Rock did an AMAZING job with WC!
I'll let you guys in on a little secret, Bob Rock can only be as good as the band that he's working with is...
When he did St. Anger, he was working with a band on the decline that had completely run out of ideas, creativity, and relevance...and the record refelcts that...The Black Album was good, because they still had something to prove (at least in their minds) after losing Cliff, they were still hungry, and still able to try new things without having to greatly compromise the sound that brought them to the dance.
Gravity is the biggest piece of crap I've ever heard (worse than St. Anger IMO, at least St. Anger had a few good riffs here and there), and it's no surprise, because Mike Turner was the driving creative force behind that band, without him, it's just Raine whining about things in an over-dramatic fashion, against uniinspired sub-par post-grunge alt-rock.
Seven Circles was a huge dissapointment for me...i'd alwasy loved the Tea Party, but that album is awful by their standards...they used to be so original sounding, and always seemed to be reinventing themselves, but on that album, it sounded like they were rehashing themselves, with the volume turned up, and the lyrics dumbed down...which seemed like a desperate attempt to garner some mass appeal in these eyes.
World Container on the other hand, sounds EXACTLY how it should IMO, and represents exactly where the hip are at this point in their career IMO...the best band in the world! hands down! The catchy songs sound catchier than ever, and the heavier numbers like Rink and Drop-Off have the boys sounding heavier than ever before IMO. Also, i find each member's individual performance is flawlessly captured and produced on the album, as mentioned before, especially the rythm section. Most importantly though, teh album has an incredible "feel" to it from start to finish, it flows better than anything they've EVER done IMO (unless you listen to FC in the "correct order").
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personaly I prefer "the rant" The hankie routine got boring very quickly. Like the first time I saw it.
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When I think of Bob Rock I think of The Payolas. I think of Rock and Hyde, Strange Advance, Motley Crue and The Cult. His work with Metalica looks to me like a professional dog trainer working over a defiant show dog.
Rock personifies the rock and roll spirit that runs through the decades regardless of fashion or trend. He can focus the" sound" of any talented musicians into undeniably tight, groovy rock songs.
Bob Rock stepped into the Tragicaly Hips world and refocused the band. World Container is not just a great album, it's one of their best. If they are able to record at the Bathouse in their "safe zone" with Bob, I think the results could be historic.
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Wc was a very strong album from a band that is still making quality music. I think Rock got the guys to really enjoy making music again and to appreciate how special it is to be in a great rock and roll band.
On the rants verses Gords new schtick.... I truly believe that GD is simply trying to save his voice from getting trashed each tour. Gord is basically the only singer I've heard of who rants through most of the instumental inteludes. I think he realises or has been told to lay off the yelling and ranting before it's too late to save his unique tool we all love...his voice.
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Here’s hoping the boys do a few concerts/festivals this summer and just like the summer of 2006, we get a glimpse at a few new songs…
