[NMAS]

If Rock needs shooting here, it isn't for the crimes everyone expected, but for overproducing World Container and Pretend. These songs suffer under the weight of so many layers and probably would have benefited from sparser arrangements.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Pretend could easily have been the best song on the album. I also agree that Gord oversings this album, but in general I've felt he's oversung quite a bit at live shows these past few years so I guess I've gotten used to it.

I don't know how some of these songs will come off live because of Gords oversinging Live ( he really has been oversinging the last few years). He really gives it on this album, he won't be able to pull it off live with the same effect. Singing in a studio in Hawaii with all the technical gizmos to help you out is different than live in front of a live audience.

I'm not to worried, I think a stong album was the most important factor. Not how or if they will be done live.

[opiated]

i'm surprised skippy is still a fan of the band..at least, i think he's a fan

[NMAS]

i'm surprised skippy is still a fan of the band..at least, i think he's a fan

True fans will be critical of the Band if they feel it is Valid to them. There is nothing wrong with that. Everyone has different opinions.

[opiated]

i'm surprised skippy is still a fan of the band..at least, i think he's a fan

True fans will be critical of the Band if they feel it is Valid to them. There is nothing wrong with that. Everyone has different opinions.

oh i know...part of me is joking, but really..he hasn't much positive to say about them in a long time

[NMAS]

i'm surprised skippy is still a fan of the band..at least, i think he's a fan

True fans will be critical of the Band if they feel it is Valid to them. There is nothing wrong with that. Everyone has different opinions.

oh i know...part of me is joking, but really..he hasn't much positive to say about them in a long time

People say the same thing about me, even though I don't think it is true.

[tigerthelion]

Gord Downie OWNS THIS RECORD! I completely disagree with people saying he is oversinging. He completely hits this one out of the ballpark. It is Gord's shining moment and he stands head and shoulders above all other bandmates. I don't think this is a bad thing, though. We all love Robby, Gord S, Johnny, and Paul but Gord is the star of the show and always will be. It bugs me when Gord misses a lot of lyrics when singing live but he makes up for it with his live energy and effort. On this album, Gord delivers in every way possible. I don't think it's possible for a current lead singer to measure up to Gord's performance on this cd. The lyrics are not his strongest on this cd but his singing is off the charts tremendous.

[opiated]

Gord Downie OWNS THIS RECORD! I completely disagree with people saying he is oversinging. He completely hits this one out of the ballpark. It is Gord's shining moment and he stands head and shoulders above all other bandmates. I don't think this is a bad thing, though. We all love Robby, Gord S, Johnny, and Paul but Gord is the star of the show and always will be. It bugs me when Gord misses a lot of lyrics when singing live but he makes up for it with his live energy and effort. On this album, Gord delivers in every way possible. I don't think it's possible for a current lead singer to measure up to Gord's performance on this cd. The lyrics are not his strongest on this cd but his singing is off the charts tremendous.

agreed!!! although i think the lyrics are quite strong as well, but his vocals are through the roof...never sounded better

[skippy the wonder dog]

agreed!!! although i think the lyrics are quite strong as well, but his vocals are through the roof...never sounded better

In terms of the quality of his vocals, yes, he sounds great and he's really singing.

My beef is with how much, not how well.

And I am still a fan. Honest.

[opiated]

agreed!!! although i think the lyrics are quite strong as well, but his vocals are through the roof...never sounded better

In terms of the quality of his vocals, yes, he sounds great and he's really singing.

My beef is with how much, not how well.

And I am still a fan. Honest.

:thumb: ...for me the vocal moment that stands out is "why don't you love me like you used to" near the end of "last night i dreamed"..so powerful...that and "holy fuck it's jesus" in "the drop off"

[tigerthelion]

agreed!!! although i think the lyrics are quite strong as well, but his vocals are through the roof...never sounded better

In terms of the quality of his vocals, yes, he sounds great and he's really singing.

My beef is with how much, not how well.

And I am still a fan. Honest.

That's a valid opinion. I differ because I don't mind him signing a lot. The more Gord, the better, unless he gets too wordy like moments during M@W.

[NMAS]

The lyrics are simpler which I would think make it easier for him to belt it out, not at tongue twisting as some of his other stuff. I don't think he over sings on the album, but it will get ovesung live I think. No matter though, that band will pull through.

[FighterAndLover]

Is anybody else listening to this and thinking about how it could actually work in the U.S.?

As a side note, The Kids Don't Get It is maybe the craziest i've ever heard Gord non-live, I don't see how anyone can not love it.

When I heard In View I too thought it could work in the US; but after hearing the rest, I don't think so. Not to say I don't like it, but I've been avidly playing Tragically Hip for my American friends for years and only a few have caught the same fev-ah.

The Kids Don't Get It isn't as crazy as Gord's vocals in Drop Off. ("Holy fuck it's Jesus!") but it's one of my favourites.

It's almost too premature for even me to be releasing this load but here it is "in a very particular order":

In View (Don't understand the criticism-great song and obvious pick for single)
World Container
Rink- much better than I remembered it in Milwaukee
Fly (Love is to try... die trying!)
Family Band
Kids
Luv (sic)
Last Night
Ocean-
Pretend- agree that it could've been much better
Drop Off- Don't like Gord's voice in it, maybe it'll grow

It'll change.

[The Nth Degree]

did anyone catch the John Lennon reference in World Container???
"Imagine all the people
Living life in peace......you-hoo"

[laliber]

did anyone catch the John Lennon reference in World Container???
"Imagine all the people
Living life in peace......you-hoo"

So far I have counted three references to singers/songwriters - two in name Dylan and Mercury and one via the lyric - Lennon...

[Flamenco]

I'm looking forward to previewing WC tonight! The reveiws have been good. I wonder which song will top my list ...