[cferneyh]

It's ridiculous to dismiss Cup winners.

Uh, when did I dismiss Cup winners? I said to show me a Leaf team captained by Sundin that has had a roster as deep as the teams that were led by the other captains I named who have won Cups.

Sundin had plenty of talent to make a run at a Cup. Your argument is weak.

Still waiting for you to show me those "talented" Leaf rosters. Which ones would those be - the ones that didn't have a strong #2 centre? The ones where Sundin's wingers were an end of the line Steve Thomas or an end of the line Gary Roberts? Please, I'd love to see what you label as talented Leaf rosters.

When it's all said and done, Sundin is not going down as a great leader, regardless of what you think.

Perhaps in your world, but thankfully, I don't live in your world.

The reason you would get the shit kicked out of you is because of your smugness and juvenile name calling.

Hello kettle? This is pot calling......