01-01-2007, 11:42 AM
tigerthelion Wrote:cferneyh Wrote:Man, I simply do not understand how anyone can say Luongo has been a disappointment. The Canucks have the third worst offense in the league (better than only the Flyers and the Blues), yet they are 20-18-1.
If you look at the 10 teams that score the least amount of goals, only three of them have winning records - the 'nucks, Devils and Stars. Seeing as how the Devils have a guy by the name of Marty Brodeur and the Stars have Regular Season Marty Turco (not to be confused with his evil twin Playoff Marty Turco - who is brutal), it's pretty clear to me that the 'nucks winning record is due to one guy, and one guy only. I mean what more did you expect out of Luongo? Did you want him to QB the PP as well?!?!?
Cferneyh, you're a stats guy. How can you defend a goalie, a guy SUPPOSED TO BE a TOP 3 goalie at the very worst, with a .911 save percentage? He's being paid to be in the top five in GAA and Save %. He has underachieved. It's pretty simple.
The Canucks record is 100% NOT because of one guy at all. Luongo has been decent but he isn't being paid to be decent. Also, in the games I've watched, he has let in too many weak goals for my liking.
Sure, you'd like his save % to be better, but compare his stats to the backup's stats. Sabourin hasn't won a game, has a GAA of 3.08, and a save % of .872, while Luongo has a GAA of 2.50 and a save % of .911. That's a pretty significant difference.
Do the same with Turco and his backup (Mike Smith) and they've got pretty similar stats, but in NJ it's the same story as in Vancouver - the starter's stats are significantly better than the backup's stats.
To me that indicates that if you take Luongo out and replace him with pretty much any other goalie in the league (not named Brodeur) and the Canucks would be significantly worse - and that my friend, is the definition of a team's MVP - especially on a team where only two guys are providing any offense whatsoever.
I tell you though, it's funny the different perceptions that everyone has of their favourite team's goalies. You say Luongo has only been "decent" this season, yet ryan93 calls Lundqvist "top 3", yet I look at Lundqvist's numbers (which I do pretty much everyday since he's one of my starters in a keeper pool I'm in, along with Kipper) and I see a guy having a very, very disappointing season.

