[tigerthelion]

tiger - out of curiousity, why do you call Heatley a "traitor"?

You gotta figure Sens fans hope that the Sens are just emulating the Detroit Red Wings. They had seasons of 98, 103, 100, 70 (lockout season), and 131 points from '92 to '96 before they finally won the Cup in '97. Hell, I remember in those days people were questioning if Yzerman had what it took to win, and there were plenty of rumours that he was going to be dealt to Ottawa in those days. The funny thing is that the coach of two of those disappointing teams was Bryan Murray.

As for Thornton, yeah, you're right. I was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in Boston because - well, it was the Bruins. But with the Sharks he's got a decent #2 centre behind him in Marleau, yet he's still not getting the job done.

I just don't like the way he left Atlanta. The team supported him through all his troubles and then he turns around and asks for a trade. After all, he was the guy who was driving the car and smashed it, resulting in the death of a teammate. I know it was an accident but he brought the troubles onto himself and then to turn around and leave the organization that bent over backwards to make sure he was well taken care of as much as possible and to help keep him out of jail any way they could.........I don't wish anyone to go through what Heatley has gone through and he has to live with what happened every day of his life but I still believe he should have shown loyalty to the Thrasher's organization. Even Bertuzzi the idiot was loyal to the Canucks and didn't demand to be traded.