[tigerthelion]

I feel for Mats...I really do...

I mean, here's a guy who has exemplified CLASS within a franchise that is clearly despised from coast to coast, and yet people fail to give him his due...

The Ray Bourque comparison mentioned earlier struck a chord with me...basically what that example suggests is that if Sundin were traded at the deadline to a team that went on to win the Cup, his career would all of a sudden have some sort of magical "meaning"...

For anyone born after 1967 (ie. the "post-Keon Years"), and with apologies to Wendel Clark (who didn't have the added pressure of playing for a contender) there is only one player who has brought to Toronto what Sundin has brought in his tenure here, and that's Darryl Sittler...I hate to say it, but if Mats was born in Brampton as opposed to Bromma, many people would probably look at his career very differently...

Bottom line is, he's a guaranteed first ballot hall of famer...DEAL WITH IT!

Who said he wasn't a HOF'er?? Nobody said that at all. That has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONVERSATION!!!