[grooveless touque]

Ditto. They are way too abstract for me, and all their stuff sounds exactly the same. Seriously, I have heard half their stuff from a friend of mine and NONE of it is easily identifiable as coming from a certain album. You can mix and match songs from their entire career and you couldn't tell the difference between which ones came from which album. Loud, repetitive garbage outdone only by the singer's complete inability to make two songs sound distinct.

Ah, vitriol...where would I be without it.