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opiated - 07-24-2006
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i don't know about this..it seems wrong to me for some reason...
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farmerdan - 07-24-2006
that is definatly one movie i'm gonna stay away from
IMO there no reason for a twelve year old to be naked in any movie, especially under those circumstances
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NMAS - 07-24-2006
Sounds like they are trying to drum up some funding. I doubt the scene will see the light of day.
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chris - 07-24-2006
I doubt the movie, let alone that scene will see the light of day. And if it does, I won't watch it.
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thedarkcanuck - 07-24-2006
thats just twisted...only in america(hollywood at least). same goes for these 9-11 movies coming out now-how these studios can reap millionsfrom others tragedies goes beyond my moral comprehension. when the big one hits cali, i hope hollywood is smack dab on the fault line
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tth_fan - 07-24-2006
Being a Child & Youth Care worker who has worked with sexually abused teenage girls, this is morally wrong. I've seen the aftermath that happens to some of these girls, and it's nothing to make money off of, unless it goes Directly towards helping to fix the problem (and I guarentee it wouldn't be accepted, and with good reason). It's sickening.
Not only that, there is no need for a 12 year old to be nude in a film.
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chicagoblackhawks77 - 07-25-2006
tth_fan Wrote:Being a Child & Youth Care worker who has worked with sexually abused teenage girls, this is morally wrong. I've seen the aftermath that happens to some of these girls, and it's nothing to make money off of, unless it goes Directly towards helping to fix the problem (and I guarentee it wouldn't be accepted, and with good reason). It's sickening.
Not only that, there is no need for a 12 year old to be nude in a film.
Just playing devil's advocate here... perhaps it will bring some abuse issues to light / more attention to the problem?
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tth_fan - 07-25-2006
chicagoblackhawks77 Wrote:Just playing devil's advocate here... perhaps it will bring some abuse issues to light / more attention to the problem?
I see where you're coming from. At the same time, why do they have to have it so graphic to the point where they need a 12 year old to pose nude?
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Hammer - 07-25-2006
I think it's pretty damn sick. Anyone who would willing toss their 12 year old daughter into a scenario where she is involved in anything sexual with a man, let alone being naked and raped by him should have their fuckin' head examined.
This lady is obviously exploiting her daughter for money and fame.
The idea of producing a film that involves a scene like this that actually caters to paedophiles sickens me aswell.
As far as what
chicagoblackhawks77 said, thats is true, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it.
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emperor penguin - 07-26-2006
Hammer Wrote:I think it's pretty damn sick. Anyone who would willing toss their 12 year old daughter into a scenario where she is involved in anything sexual with a man, let alone being naked and raped by him should have their fuckin' head examined.
This lady is obviously exploiting her daughter for money and fame.
The idea of producing a film that involves a scene like this that actually caters to paedophiles sickens me aswell.
As far as what chicagoblackhawks77 said, thats is true, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it.
I totally agree, you know if the scene is in the movie the theatre is going to be full of pedophiles touching themselves. Its disgusting and shouldn't be allowed.
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hotmetal401 - 07-26-2006
Will boycotting the movie, not including the scene, and/or having popular culture ignore issues of child sexual abuse make people stop abusing children? It could shed more light to the this issue, and be more than just a movie for the guys we see on Dateline every other week.
Wonder if this scene would be so controversial if the actress was over 18? I mean, how is rape any worse for the victim if she's (or he for that matter) 6 years younger?
I feel like I should re-read Foucault if I want to stay in this thread.
Cheers,
Pat
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Corby - 07-26-2006
hotmetal401 Wrote:It could shed more light to the this issue, and be more than just a movie for the guys we see on Dateline every other week.
I'm sure the film's intention warrants the scene, and clearly the scene is going to be an important part of the film's message. I'm not sure there will be a problem with it being there; its part of a story, one that i'll bet will cover important issues. My problem is when it starts to become acceptable in the mainstream movie industry. "well, this movie did it, we can too." As long as its no longer taboo, we've got a problem. I'd probably vote against the nudity, not the scene inclusion. Then again, it will all depend on the calibre of the film/director.
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Hammer - 07-26-2006
It's not so much that is is happening in the film that bothers me. It's the fact that the director felt it necessary to actually include a scene with a naked 12 year old girl actually being "raped" by this guy...
There is no need to include the actual event as it happens. I'm pretty sure everyone would get the hint of what happens to the girl if they show scenes from before and after the act...
Last I heard child porn was illegal... Naked 12 year old girl involved in a sexual act with a person on film (regardless if it's choreographed or not) is still pretty much child porn... So, what message is being sent here? "Sure you can film naked minors giving choreographed bj's and what have you... as long as it will be shown in theatre's nation-wide..."
This might be a bit extreme, but I think the filming should be released to the police instead of theatre's (regardless of the "message" of the movie, its still not legal...)