Xbox 360!! - Printable Version

Xbox 360!! - Printable Version

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Xbox 360!! - gratts99 - 05-13-2005

Last night on mtv and ctv they unvieled the xbox 360!

heres a link to a sweet intro video:

<a class="postlink" href="http://media.xbox360.ign.com/articles/613/613343/vids_1.html">http://media.xbox360.ign.com/articles/6 ... ids_1.html</a>

System looks to be the xmas "impossible to get" gift already, with allocation being very tight! Ill put it this way.. Eb games in southern ontario will probably be sold out by end of june with preorders. System date is speculated to be nov 15.

Game on!
Xbox 360 Specs:

CPU

3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1MB L2 Cache
9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI GPU:

500 MHz Clock Speed
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture
500 million triangles per second polygon performance
16 gigasamples per second pixel fillrate using 4X MSAA
48 billion shader operations per second
Memory:

512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture
22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance:

1 TFLOP
Storage:

Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB
Input/Output:

Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports - 2 front concealed under flap, 1 rear - compatible with all USB devices
2 memory unit slots
Digital Media Support:

Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
HD Game Support:

All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported
Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels
Optimized for Online:

Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port at rear of console
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready
Wireless Controllers:

'Black' & 'White' buttons moved to shoulders of controller; now known as 'Bumpers'
'Expansion Jack' & 'Audio Jack' located at the bottom of controller
Found at the top of controller is the 'Charge Port,' where the 'Play-Charge' recharging cable is connected
Jazz:

Stands vertically or horizontally
Interchangeable faceplates to personalize console to owners tastes
In addition to summoning the Xbox Gamer Guide and the Xbox System Guide, Xbox Guide Button on controller and DVD remote lets gamers turn their systems on and off while kicking back on the couch
'Ring of Light' on console and controller communicates different events to player with varying patterns and colours, such as a new Xbox Live game invite being sent; many more cool actions displayable
Xbox Live For The Next Generation

Increased Flexibility

Xbox Live, Silver - No monthly subscription required
Xbox Live, Gold - Standard monthly subscription required
Benefits of Xbox Live, Gold

Unified Service Approach

Xbox Gamer Guide that provides a consistent interface across all experiences
Access to other players' Gamer Cards via Xbox Live
Xbox Guide Button for fast access to the Guide and online features
Personalized game play settings
Seamless transition of Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
Xbox Live Online Game Play

Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply)
Free Xbox Live weekends
Multiplayer online game play
Xbox Live Gamer Profile

'Gamertile' personalized image for your gamer profile
Personalized 'Motto' for your gaming profile
Personalized look for the Xbox System Guide
Collection of offline achievements
Collection of online achievements
Personalized 'Gamertag'
Xbox Live Intelligent Matchmaking

'Gamer Score' - Part of Gamer Profile: cumulative score of all of achievements. Can be used for quick comparison with other gamers
'Location/Language' - Part of Gamer Profile: identifies your location and preferred language
'Reputation' - Part of Gamer Profile: rating provided by community that indicates how you are perceived by other players
Enhanced matchmaking using above elements of gamer profile
Choice of matchmaking based on either skill level or social play
Opportunity to provide feedback on other players and affect your likelihood to match with them in the future
'Gamerzone' - Part of Gamer Profile: indicates style of social gaming you prefer - relaxed/casual, competitive, etc.
Xbox Live Community

Friends List; online presence
Recent Players List
Ubiquitous voice chat in game
Ubiquitous voice chat out of game
Xbox Live Marketplace

Credit card no longer required for Xbox Live access
Free and premium downloadable game content
Free and premium downloadable movies, music and TV
Downloadable game trailers/demos
Microtranscations
Xbox Live Message Center

Game Invites
Friend Invites
Text and Voice Messages
Service/System Messages
Digital Media Experiences

Custom playlists in every game
Play music from portable music devices
View pictures from digital cameras
Stream Media from connected Windows XP PC
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
Track Info for CDs (Offline & Online)
Parental Controls

Game play based on game rating (e.g. ESRB)
Managing Friends List
Sharing profiles and/or viewing other profiles
Communicating via voice, video, and/or text
Presence
Ability to purchase premium content in marketplace
Ability to play multiplayer online
Benefits of Xbox Live, Silver

Unified Service Approach

Xbox Gamer Guide that provides a consistent interface across all experiences
Access to other players' Gamer Cards via Xbox Live
Xbox Guide Button for fast access to the Guide and online features
Personalized game play settings
Xbox Live Online Game Play

Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply)
Free Xbox Live weekends
Xbox Live Gamer Profile

'Gamertile' personalized image for your gamer profile
Personalized 'Motto' for your gaming profile
Personalized look for the Xbox System Guide
Collection of offline achievements
Collection of online achievements
Personalized 'Gamertag'
Xbox Live Intelligent Matchmaking

'Gamer Score' - Part of Gamer Profile: cumulative score of all of achievements. Can be used for quick comparison with other gamers
'Location/Language' - Part of Gamer Profile: identifies your location and preferred language
'Reputation' - Part of Gamer Profile: rating provided by community that indicates how you are perceived by other players
Xbox Live Community

Friends List; online presence
Recent Players List
Ubiquitous voice chat in game
Ubiquitous voice chat out of game
Xbox Live Marketplace

Credit card no longer required for Xbox Live access
Free and premium downloadable game content
Free and premium downloadable movies, music and TV
Downloadable game trailers/demos
Microtranscations
Xbox Live Message Center

Game Invites
Friend Invites
Text and Voice Messages
Service/System Messages
Digital Media Experiences

Custom playlists in every game
Play music from portable music devices
View pictures from digital cameras
Stream Media from connected Windows XP PC
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
Track Info for CDs (Offline & Online)
Parental Controls

Game play based on game rating (e.g. ESRB)
Managing Friends List
Sharing profiles and/or viewing other profiles
Communicating via voice, video, and/or text
Presence
Ability to purchase premium content in marketplace
For those stuck offline

Unified Service Approach

Xbox Gamer Guide that provides a consistent interface across all experiences
Xbox Guide Button for fast access to the Guide and online features
Personalized game play settings
Xbox Live Gamer Profile

'Gamertile' personalized image for your gamer profile
Personalized 'Motto' for your gaming profile
Personalized look for the Xbox System Guide
Collection of offline achievements
Collection of online achievements
Xbox Live Intelligent Matchmaking

'Gamer Score' - Part of Gamer Profile: cumulative score of all of achievements. Can be used for quick comparison with other gamers
'Location/Language' - Part of Gamer Profile: identifies your location and preferred language
Xbox Live Marketplace

Credit card no longer required for Xbox Live access
Digital Media Experiences

Custom playlists in every game
Play music from portable music devices
View pictures from digital cameras
Stream Media from connected Windows XP PC
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
Track Info for CDs (Offline & Online)
Parental Controls

- Lizard King - 05-13-2005

Its gonna be a sweet system. Good to see Xbox Live refined, that thing was sketchy, it needed uprgrading, the detachable 20GBHD and wireless controllers are a great bonus. But Im planning to go with the PS3, I think it will blow it away in the long run. Or I just might get both like last time. 8) Either way, they both are going to be amazing, I cant wait to play them. I prefer Sony, mostly for certain games...Gran Turismo 5, Final Fantasy etc... But Halo 3 is going to be massive, the way Halo2 ended has left a void in me that needs filling, I must play 3! Im so tempted to buy both, I think I might have to sell a kidney or rob a liquor store. :lol: I just hope I can get one Sad

Maybe you can pull some strings for me gratts, you owe me, after all I did save your life in Vietnam man!

- gratts99 - 05-13-2005

LizardKing51 Wrote:. But Im planning to go with the PS3, I think it will blow it away in the long run.

this might be true since the ps3 will not be out till late 2006. giving them a full year of new "cell" technology.. basically they want to do what xbox did to them

LizardKing51 Wrote:. But Halo 3 is going to be massive, the way Halo2 ended has left a void in me that needs filling, I must play 3!

halo 3 will be released the day ps3 comes out.(smart, yes). making it the biggest retail day ever for sure.... oh god im so dreading that day!

LizardKing51 Wrote:. , I think I might have to sell a kidney or rob a liquor store. :lol: I just hope I can get one Maybe you can pull some strings for me gratts, you owe me, after all I did save your life in Vietnam man!

umm, not even i can get a discount of any kind on systems, so maybe i'll case a store for you instead :wink: :wink:

- Bootlegger420 - 05-14-2005

CAN YOU PLAY YOUR ORIGINAL XBOX GAMES IN THE NEW XBOX 360!!!!

SHANE

- Lizard King - 05-14-2005

Hey gratts, you have any idea on the retail price for the xbox360? I was hearing either $299-399.00, or that microsoft will come out with different bundles varying in price, is that true? Just wondering if you've heard anything.

- joshwayy - 05-14-2005

Whatever it is, It will be worth the price to see the Master Chief in action again. I'm on my third run through H3 on legendary and still haven't found all the hidden skulls.

- Tthip - 05-14-2005

Bootlegger420 Wrote:CAN YOU PLAY YOUR ORIGINAL XBOX GAMES IN THE NEW XBOX 360!!!!

SHANE

Microsoft is not saying yet if the 360 will be able to play the old Xbox games.

- gratts99 - 05-14-2005

If you could play old games on the 360, they would of brought that up by now. So i am 90% confident in saying NO, you cannot play old xbox games in xbox 360.

Why??? Well becasue they would have to put this old technology in the new system taking away the graphic capibilites if the 360..
also because the manufactures of the chipset in the 2 systems are different.

The price is rumored to be $300 american. we are telling ppl to assume that they will pay for 360 what they paid for xbox 1.. $400-450

- chris - 05-15-2005

Maybe Macs are better for gaming as well? Microsoft, what do you think? I see that you are running the demos of your new Xbox on Macintosh systems, and the new processor is based on the technology that Macs have used since 1994...

<a class="postlink" href="http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+demos+running+on+Macs/2100-1043_3-5706658.html?part=rss&tag=5706658&subj=news">http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+demos+runn ... &subj=news</a>

- Bootlegger420 - 05-16-2005

Along with a firm release date and price point, the other big question surrounding the 360 was backward compatibility with the library of games from the original Xbox. Robbie Bach, senior vice president and chief Xbox officer in the Home and Entertainment Division at Microsoft, made Xbox fans around the world happy when he announced that the 360 will indeed play Xbox games.

VERY HAPPY TO READ THIS TODAY ONLINE!!!

SHANE

- LastStop - 05-17-2005

chris Wrote:Maybe Macs are better for gaming as well?

Umm...no.

- D-man - 05-17-2005

That being said, the PS3 was announced and shown off last night at E3 as well.

<a class="postlink" href="http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614619p1.html">http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614619p1.html</a>

- gratts99 - 05-17-2005

so ps3 will be out in spring of 2006!

along with halo 3

and ps3 has 7 cores at 3.2 ghz each... not to shabby however they have only half the ram as the box
Logo: PLAYSTATION®3

CPU

Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS
Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

- gratts99 - 05-17-2005

Bootlegger420 Wrote:Along with a firm release date and price point, the other big question surrounding the 360 was backward compatibility with the library of games from the original Xbox. Robbie Bach, senior vice president and chief Xbox officer in the Home and Entertainment Division at Microsoft, made Xbox fans around the world happy when he announced that the 360 will indeed play Xbox games.

VERY HAPPY TO READ THIS TODAY ONLINE!!!

SHANE

Acutally they have announced that it will only be backwards compatible with a selection of prior "top selling" xbox titles.....meaning most likely microsoft 1st party games. Also they will use a emulator program(yuck) to achieve this.
<a class="postlink" href="http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/614/614498p1.html">http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/614/614498p1.html</a>

- Lizard King - 05-19-2005

Can some of you tech-savvy individuals help me out here, Ive been looking over the specs of the new Playstation3 and I was wondering if you could help me understand some of these terms. Here is the article...

Sony also laid out the technical specs of the device. The PlayStation 3 will feature the much-vaunted Cell processor, which will run at 3.2GHz, giving the whole system 2 teraflops of overall performance. It will sport 256MB XDR main RAM at 3.2GHz, and it will have 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700MHz.

Sony also unveiled the PS3's graphics chip, the RSX "Reality Synthesizer," which is based on Nvidia technology. The GPU will be capable of 128bit pixel precision and 1080p resolution--some of the highest HD resolution around. The RSX also has 512MB of graphics render memory and is capable of 100 billion shader operations and 51 billion dot products per second. It also has more than 300 million transistors, larger than any processor commercially available today. It will be manufactured using the 90nm process, with eight layers of metal. The RSX is more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards, which would cost roughly $1,000 total if purchased today.

Firstly, what are Teraflops, and what do they relate to?
What is the 90nm process?

Based on whats been published so far, does the PS3 seem like its a little better than xbox360, roughly the same or is it a LOT better?

Im trying to decide which way to go, Ive been waying the pros and cons of both, at this point and yes I know its very early to be doing so, but I am an absolute fanatic when it comes to video games and gaming in general, its my passion (yes it sounds geeky I know, but I dont care) Tongue

So Im trying to decide who should get lots of my well earned money-Microsoft or Sony? Im leaning strongly to xbox at this point. The rumour going is that because of all the high-tech "stuff" in the PS3, its going to drive the price over $400 USD, and maybe as high as $700, if thats the case I definitely wont be buying both. The xbox360 is said to retail at $299, which is fair considering its prowess. The only things pulling me to Sony again is the usual, playing Gran Turismo5 and whatever the next Final Fantasy may be. Thankfully I have until November to decide, I wont be surprised if Im still undecided by then :lol: (but Im sure my wife will make me choose anyways)