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Who doesn't know what the Nazi symbol stands for? - thipfan73 - 04-22-2005

I'll give you this. It's also an old Native American symbol but GEEZ.

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Neighbours lower Nazi flag
April 21, 2005
From: AAP

Up in arms ... Jenni Duncombe says baby Breeanna enjoys watching the bright flag.

The flag had been flying in the backyard of the home of Mannering Park residents Darren Mackay and Jenni Duncombe for about a week.
It sparked criticism from the RSL, Jewish groups and local residents after the family refused requests to remove it.

Ms Duncombe had told the Daily Telegraph she did not know what the flag signified until the controversy erupted, but would not remove it because her four-month-old daughter liked its bright colours.

Today, the couple's neighbour Amanda Smith said the flag disappeared this morning.

"I can't see it and I can see the flag pole from my house," she said.

Ms Smith said she was one of a number of residents who complained to the police about the matter.

"I'm not usually the type of person to complain about these sorts of things.

"But when you see it you think what is going on, what sort of people are they and what are they doing."

Ms Smith said she found it hard to believe that Ms Duncombe did not know what the flag stood for or that it would be offensive.

"You have to be very ignorant to not know what that was," she said.

A Wyong Council spokeswoman said it was understood the flag had been taken down.

The red Nazi flag, with its black swastika on a white circle, was the symbol of Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitic German Third Reich, responsible for the slaughter of millions of innocent people.


- clearlyentranced - 04-22-2005

Oh man...that's just....retarded! Where abouts was this?


- opiated - 04-22-2005

thanks.now i know what i'm going to talk about today on my show!! i'll try and contact her and see what she has to say


- thipfan73 - 04-22-2005

Thehip21 Wrote:Oh man...that's just....retarded! Where abouts was this?

I think it's Austraila.


- Dilly_sAm - 04-22-2005

It's also a buddhist symbol....how shocked was I when I saw a swastika on the hand of the buddha on a field trip to a buddhist temple.


- thipfan73 - 04-22-2005

Dilly_sAm Wrote:It's also a buddhist symbol....how shocked was I when I saw a swastika on the hand of the buddha on a field trip to a buddhist temple.

That's interesting. I do believe it has some spiritual significance in Native American culture so maybe it's a similar thing. I know when I learned about what it stood for before Hitler got a hold of it made me hate Hitler even more, which I didn't think was possible.


- LaminarFlow - 04-22-2005

My daughter likes watching the bright colors and hates Jewish people! What?


- skippy the wonder dog - 04-22-2005

The flag below the swastika in the photo appears to be a skull and crossbones. Hmmm....

The claim that she didn't know what it was looks disingenuous. Where did she get it, at the local frigging flag shop, where it was on sale as a "pretty red flag of unknown significance, $9.50?"

I find it difficult to believe that not only did she not know what it was, but she managed to buy it without learning what it was? What is the normal source for Nazi flags on the retail market these days, pray tell?


- thipfan73 - 04-22-2005

skippy the wonder dog Wrote:The flag below the swastika in the photo appears to be a skull and crossbones. Hmmm....

The claim that she didn't know what it was looks disingenuous. Where did she get it, at the local frigging flag shop, where it was on sale as a "pretty red flag of unknown significance, $9.50?"

I find it difficult to believe that not only did she not know what it was, but she managed to buy it without learning what it was? What is the normal source for Nazi flags on the retail market these days, pray tell?

Yep, I kinda thought that too.


- highlander - 04-22-2005

There was a hockey team in Windsor NS called the "Windsor Swastikas". Mind you, before Hitler adopted it as his symbol. The symbol didn't always stand for something evil or bad.

From the link below:
The Greeks, Romans, Hindus, Celts, Chinese, American Indians and others treasured the symbol. The swastika was interpreted by some as four "L's" meaning Love, Life, Luck and Light. For others it seems to have originated as crossed lightning bolts symbolizing a source of great power. To the Romans the swastika meant "Peace". To the Hindus it meant "Good Fortune"'. To the American Plains Indians it meant "Good Luck". To all cultures it was symbolic of something good until the Nazis turned its meaning around completely, to signify evil,death and destruction. They converted the world's oldest and most loved symbol to the most hated and feared of all.

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Darren


- Coneycat - 04-22-2005

True, the swastika didn't always stand for evil, but what she was flying was a Nazi flag, and that's never been anything but. (A picture of a maple leaf might remind people of Canada, but the Canadian flag means Canada. Whole different level of symbolism. Not that I am implying there's any similarity between my national flag and that of the Third Reich.)

I'm with skippy--it's disingenuous of her to try to pretend she had no idea what she'd run up the flagpole. Sounds more to me like they were testing to see whether they could get away with something, and are playing innocent now that they've discovered no, they can't.

Boneheads.


- thipfan73 - 04-22-2005

highlander Wrote:There was a hockey team in Windsor NS called the "Windsor Swastikas". Mind you, before Hitler adopted it as his symbol. The symbol didn't always stand for something evil or bad.

From the link below:
The Greeks, Romans, Hindus, Celts, Chinese, American Indians and others treasured the symbol. The swastika was interpreted by some as four "L's" meaning Love, Life, Luck and Light. For others it seems to have originated as crossed lightning bolts symbolizing a source of great power. To the Romans the swastika meant "Peace". To the Hindus it meant "Good Fortune"'. To the American Plains Indians it meant "Good Luck". To all cultures it was symbolic of something good until the Nazis turned its meaning around completely, to signify evil,death and destruction. They converted the world's oldest and most loved symbol to the most hated and feared of all.

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Darren

It has everything to do with presentation and knowledge. If you see if on an indian blanket and don't know it's an old symbol you'll think it's a nazi symbol, but even IF you don't know it's an ancient symbol and you see it in a white circle with red around it you KNOW what it means.

Idiots. Sounds like something my Grandmother would do. Ohhhh, I didn't know it stood for the Nazis!!!!


- jkdiamond - 04-22-2005

idiot all i can say idiot


- j-monster - 04-22-2005

That's scary... either these people are racist neo-Nazis, or they are the biggest dumbasses on the face of the earth!


- LaminarFlow - 04-23-2005

j-monster Wrote:That's scary... either these people are racist neo-Nazis, or they are the biggest dumbasses on the face of the earth!
Probably both.