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highlander - 12-14-2003
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
Maybe this will boost the morale over there and eventually get someplace with the rebuilding of that nation.
High
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grooveless touque - 12-14-2003
Man...I couldn't believe it when i read it on CBC. Just amazing!
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mrlayance - 12-14-2003
I thought it was fake when I first saw the reports.
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Kim - 12-14-2003
Yeah same here. But its great news, I'm just not looking forward to seeing how George W. is gonna (ab)use this achievement to get re-elected.
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The Heron Outside - 12-14-2003
Agreed Kim...great to see the Iraqis hopefully not living in fear as much today, but I'm quite sure this just sealed the next election for George W. It'll be interesting to see how he's dealt with, or if he'll admit to there ever being WMD. :roll:
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Storm - 12-14-2003
I think it's great news! And it couldn't have come on a better time. Just before Christmas!!
True Kim.. I remember the discussion who is worse, Bush or Saddam, both in their own way..
But now Saddam is captured, what do you all think should be a fair punishment? Deathpenalty??
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AmbitionlessHipster - 12-14-2003
It is good news indeed.
I find it kind of interesting that it took American (intelligence) forces 9 months!
I just despise how the television stations are showing the "celebrations" in Iraq... it is so selected, and so much of the video looks as though it was from the 80's. And in one shot, I saw the people waving Soviet Union flags...

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soooooo.... it is just too hard to believe that "everyone is celebrating".... grrr :x I hate the news.
Not only that, the media really reinforces the ethnocentric (and very propagandistic) idea that the Middle East is "uncivilised" because they keep on showing us celebrations which include guns... shame, because that tends to shape peoples' views.
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jen - 12-14-2003
Storm Wrote:I
But now Saddam is captured, what do you all think should be a fair punishment? Deathpenalty??
I say throw him into a crowd of Iraqi people...let them torture him to death..just as he tortured them.
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jen - 12-14-2003
AmbitionlessHipster Wrote:I find it kind of interesting that it took American (intelligence) forces 9 months!
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I'm sorry Leslie..I think you are really cool, but can you please give the US some credit??
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AmbitionlessHipster - 12-14-2003
:thumb: Lots of credit for the American PEOPLE
Its the government and the Military (principles) that I dispute
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VioletlightHeron - 12-15-2003
Leslie, you have some valid criticisms about the errors and false perceptions the American military and political machinery have made in Iraq. However, I dont think you can expect the military to capture Saddam or supress the guerillas almost instantly. Nine months is a pretty reasonable time to catch Saddam, given that he has the advantage in knowing the country like the back of his hand, supporters to hide him and time to get away from Baghdad. I dont think the Fedayeen or the militant Islamists to give up just yet, but I think the citizens of Iraq will start to support the provisional government now that they know Saddam is captured and wont take back power. now, if Bush would get his foot out of his mouth and let the French and Russians bid on the contracts, maybe we can get more allies on the ground, even if they were actively delaying the conflict to support their own Iraq interests. I actually have more respect for the Canadian and German governments who opposed the war on moral principle, unlike the French and Russians.
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HIPpyLettuce - 12-15-2003
Storm Wrote:I think it's great news! And it couldn't have come on a better time. Just before Christmas!!
True Kim.. I remember the discussion who is worse, Bush or Saddam, both in their own way..
But now Saddam is captured, what do you all think should be a fair punishment? Deathpenalty??
As soon as I heard the news I started thinking about the punishment.. and there really are only two, Jail and Death. Of course there are variations of each.. imprisoned slave, torture followed with a slow death.
Both of which will present new problems.
If he is to be executed then there is risk of making a martyr out of him.
If he is jailed then there is the risk of more terrorist threats to have his release.
Should be interesting to see how this is handled..
Hmm, sitting here writing this and I had an idea, we give him an old fashioned labotomy and then give him back to Iraq! Then his followers have the cherished ex-leader thus eliminating the two problems I mentioned above.
If only it were that easy!
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mark - 12-15-2003
killing him shouldn't even be an option. that is exactly what he wants.
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Kim - 12-15-2003
Thought this was pretty funny! :mrgreen:
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LastStop - 12-15-2003
mark Wrote:killing him shouldn't even be an option. that is exactly what he wants.
I highly doubt that. Also, if that were really true, he would have violently resisted capture, forcing US troops to kill him in the process, just like his two idiot sons.