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Tiger Woods Remarks - teemudog - 06-04-2008

I was not surprised not to see this anywhere in this forum (unless I did not look hard enough). It appears it is being discussed everywhere on line and what can be said about it has been said over and over and over.

Still, I will post this:

Woods owes NHL, all the NHL players, all the NHL fans, and the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Tiger players, and Detroit Tiger fans, a huge apology.

What an arrogant dumb ass. :censored

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - d_alex_d - 06-04-2008

What did he say? I can't find wha your talking about

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - d_alex_d - 06-04-2008

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ahhh, found it -

are ppl actually getting mad about this? on eguys says ppl dont watch hockey anymore - did ppl ever watch hockey in the states?

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - Phantom51 - 06-04-2008

Well it is pretty much true in the states. I'm sure people watching this series is very regionally based. It is us who are dumbasses for thinking Hockey is the end all and be all everywhere and that it has to be respected.

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - teemudog - 06-04-2008

My point on this is simple.

NHL is rated 4th of the big 4 sports in the U.S. Whether we like it or not, people listen to what celebrities like him say. Tiger Woods is a professional athlete. This group of elite athletes, professional athletes should not disrespect each others sport. He disrespected hockey to the audience in Detroit during the Cup Finals. If he were to say, he doesn't watch it but understands it is big in Detroit, or something to that effect, that should just end it. Who would care? Heck he could have done something really crazy: like promote it in some way. Help it along here. But to make a remark that is disrespectful to the NHL is not a good thing.
People are making excuses saying he is right, no one in U.S. watches hockey, that is just pointless dribble of which debate can go on forever.

It should never have be said in first place by one professional athlete about another professional athlete's chosen sport. :x

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - The Horrible Esthete - 06-04-2008

But he's mostly right, you know.

First, we all have to assume he's talking about "people in the US" who also do not have an NHL franchise in their market. I'm sure plenty of people are watching hockey in Detroit, Pittsburgh, NY, Chicago, etc. But there sure as heck isn't anyone watching the NHL here in Cincy.

And it's not even because we don't like hockey or have no interest in the sport, necessarily. It's mostly because a bunch of us -- a BIG bunch of us -- can't watch hockey, even if we might want to. In my case, there are no channels on my standard cable (or expanded sports tiers, even) that carry regular season or playoff NHL games. Which network even broadcasts out-of-market NHL games? I don't even know what it's called, but what I do know is that whatever it is, I don't get it on my cable...and don't even think I can buy it if I wanted it.

The Blue Jackets are shown on my regional FOX sports channel (FOX Sports Ohio), but only for the portion of the NHL schedule that does not coincide with the MLB schedule (Reds). In fact, the CBJs could be in first place, or cruising through the playoffs, but if that series-deciding playoff game is scheduled at the same time a nearly-meaningless April Reds game, they will air the Reds instead (for which I am thankful).

But again -- I have a great respect for NHL hockey, despite the fact that I am not a fan. I would be 1000 times more likely to gain a heightened level of interest in the NHL than I would the NBA, but the lack of media coverage here makes it virtually impossible for me to take even a casual interest in it.

It's funny though -- two nights ago, after the Reds game, I was flipping through the channels and landed on NBC, who does broadcast the Cup. I left it there and watched. As y'all probably know, the score was tied 2-2 with about 12:00 to play in the 3rd Period, and I sat there watching for about 7 or 8 game minutes and saw Detroit get a few shots on goal, and the Pens not even get the puck past center ice under their control. Detroit scored, I thought it was over, then Pittsburgh got that late goal.

Then I watched the entire first OT, and really began losing interest. I kept the TV on, but started finding ways to distract myself as the first OT period ended and the 2nd bagan. Then I watched some more, and finally just got far too bored to even care enought to lose any sleep over it. So I went to bed. And I doubt I'll be watching any more.

I imagine my perspective had to be similar to that of a hockey fan who has little interest in baseball but was trying to watch a WS game that was tied at two from the 7th inning on, where teams trade single runs in the ninth, and then play scoreless 10th, 11th, and 12th innings. It's just not an easy sport to dive into, imo.

But hey -- I used to love me some "pond hockey"!

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - teemudog - 06-04-2008

I agree, if my team was not in the Final, (Pens) I probably would have been sitting down while watching the 3rd period and following 3 OT's. :lol:


GO PENS!!!

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - grimes - 06-04-2008

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:And it's not even because we don't like hockey or have no interest in the sport, necessarily. It's mostly because a bunch of us -- a BIG bunch of us -- can't watch hockey, even if we might want to. In my case, there are no channels on my standard cable (or expanded sports tiers, even) that carry regular season or playoff NHL games. Which network even broadcasts out-of-market NHL games? I don't even know what it's called, but what I do know is that whatever it is, I don't get it on my cable...and don't even think I can buy it if I wanted it.
Well that's not exactly true - NHL games are on NBC on weekends for a good portion of the season (regular season and playoffs). The reason you don't notice it elsewhere though, is because Gary Bettman seems to think that being on Versus (formely the Outdoor Life Network) is just as good as being on ESPN2. Just one of the league's many triumphs under commissioner Bettman :nooooo

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - Phantom51 - 06-04-2008

teemudog Wrote:My point on this is simple.

NHL is rated 4th of the big 4 sports in the U.S. Whether we like it or not, people listen to what celebrities like him say. Tiger Woods is a professional athlete. This group of elite athletes, professional athletes should not disrespect each others sport. He disrespected hockey to the audience in Detroit during the Cup Finals. If he were to say, he doesn't watch it but understands it is big in Detroit, or something to that effect, that should just end it. Who would care? Heck he could have done something really crazy: like promote it in some way. Help it along here. But to make a remark that is disrespectful to the NHL is not a good thing.
People are making excuses saying he is right, no one in U.S. watches hockey, that is just pointless dribble of which debate can go on forever.

It should never have be said in first place by one professional athlete about another professional athlete's chosen sport. :x

4th of the team sports maybe. But it gets blown out of the water by Nascar and other things, I think Bowling outdraws hockey in the states. Hockey probably comes well behind Arena football as well. College football is another. There are many reasons why I have no problem with what Tiger says. Hockey is a third tier sport in the US at best.

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - skippy the wonder dog - 06-04-2008

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:I imagine my perspective had to be similar to that of a hockey fan who has little interest in baseball but was trying to watch a WS game that was tied at two from the 7th inning on, where teams trade single runs in the ninth, and then play scoreless 10th, 11th, and 12th innings.

Similar, but not quite the same.

The hockey fan watching a baseball game is usually comatose shortly after the singer wraps up the national anthem.

His head nods forward onto his chest, and then he slumps sideways. Possibly, he is dead. There is no way to tell. The soporific effects of the game have slowed his heart rate and breathing to levels that only sensitive equipment can detect. Some men, discovered in this condition, have accidentally been buried alive; when exhumed, the lids of their coffins bear terrible, bloody fingernail scratches that on closer examination appear to read, "the game is over -- what a fucking relief." Tears of joy: at least it was quicker than baseball, in the end.

By the end of the first, the drool that has collected in the corner of his mouth overflows and navigates the bristles of his chin. Unable to sleep -- for drool, like rust, never sleeps -- it seeks escape from the monotony in the only way it can, by dissipating into the furniture. The gas in his beer, similarly, vacates the premises by the end of the second.

Excitement registers only on the coffee table, next to the vegetable dip. The broccoli and the carrot sticks are enthralled.

The only sport that bores those particular vegetables is golf.

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - cferneyh - 06-04-2008

Once upon a time......many, many moons ago, I actually watched a lot more baseball than hockey (being a Leaf fan does that to you). Then baseball had their obnoxious lockout (even more obnoxious than the NHL's), which served absolutely no purpose whatsoever (I mean at least the damn NHL got their damn salary cap) and I haven't come anywhere close to being interested again. Oh sure, I'll cheer against the Yankees whenever I can, and I have a general idea of what is going on, but I am totally unable to sit through a full inning without changing the channel. And while I used to find things like pitching changes "strategic" and hence, interesting, now they just annoy the f*ck out of me. Especially when some crappy middle reliever comes in to face one batter, and walks him. Nice work Tubby - I hope you feel good cashing your $100K paycheque this week.

Anyway, it's about time Tiger took a friggin' stand on something! The funny thing is that he probably just generated more buzz about hockey in the US than Crosby ever will.

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - mark - 06-04-2008

i think teemudog needs to get laid :lol:

chill out dude.

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - The Horrible Esthete - 06-04-2008

grimes Wrote:Well that's not exactly true - NHL games are on NBC on weekends for a good portion of the season (regular season and playoffs). The reason you don't notice it elsewhere though, is because Gary Bettman seems to think that being on Versus (formely the Outdoor Life Network) is just as good as being on ESPN2. Just one of the league's many triumphs under commissioner Bettman :nooooo

How did I miss that? Oh! Now I remember! I was busy watching the NFL, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball, and MLB on weekends! :lol:

So I stand corrected. Aside from FSN Ohio sqeezing CBJ games in the space around baseball games, NBC shows what appears to be 22 NHL hockey games (including both regular and postseason), only on weekends. That certainly won't serve to draw too many "new "fans

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - The Horrible Esthete - 06-04-2008

skippy the wonder dog Wrote:Similar, but not quite the same.

The hockey fan watching a baseball game is usually comatose shortly after the singer wraps up the national anthem.

His head nods forward onto his chest, and then he slumps sideways. Possibly, he is dead. There is no way to tell. The soporific effects of the game have slowed his heart rate and breathing to levels that only sensitive equipment can detect. Some men, discovered in this condition, have accidentally been buried alive; when exhumed, the lids of their coffins bear terrible, bloody fingernail scratches that on closer examination appear to read, "the game is over -- what a fucking relief." Tears of joy: at least it was quicker than baseball, in the end.

By the end of the first, the drool that has collected in the corner of his mouth overflows and navigates the bristles of his chin. Unable to sleep -- for drool, like rust, never sleeps -- it seeks escape from the monotony in the only way it can, by dissipating into the furniture. The gas in his beer, similarly, vacates the premises by the end of the second.

The only sport that bores those particular vegetables is golf.

You're right - it isn't quite the same!

Whereas the hockey fan passively succumbs to the drowsy numbness of the hemlock that is "America's Pastime", the baseball fan actively seeks his own relief from post puck-drop torture. He could only wish that he might softly sink Lethe-wards from the dull opiate that is the third pitching change of the inning or the fifth-consecutive throw to first base to check the runner.

No, a baseball fan's hockey boredom is much more of a maddening irritant that needles the skin and angries-up the blood. "Keep watching", the voices say, "someone could swing around the net and score in the next five seconds". Oh, but no. A stray pass. You see, at least in baseball, there are predictable, almost "scheduled" lulls during which you can plan a trip to the loo or the fridge. But the constant slapping of the puck back and forth across the ice seems almost infitite. After the seventeenth consecutive overturn of control of the puck, a baseball fan is driven to jam toothpicks in his eyes....or pound himself in the head with the bottom of his beer bottle, hoping to end it all himself.

"Adieu! adieu! Thy plaintive anthem fades......"

Re: Tiger Woods Remarks - skippy the wonder dog - 06-04-2008

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:... at least in baseball, there are predictable, almost "scheduled" lulls during which you can plan a trip to the loo or the fridge.

So the whole attraction of the game is that you don't actually have to watch it.