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Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - The Horrible Esthete - 05-23-2008

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Construction activity in Dubai, United Arab Emirates...


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The finished product...it's HUGE (note the palm trees). What the heck is it, anyway?

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Are you frikin' kidding me? An indoor ski resort in the desert???

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Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - VioletlightHeron - 05-23-2008

I've seen this before Esthete, but I gotta say, the reason why gas prices are so high in the States is coz they havent friggin built a new oil refinery in 30 years!!! $#%#%&^% enviromental impact statements and NIMBYism!! :nooooo :nooooo :rambo:


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - The Horrible Esthete - 05-23-2008

right....the title is more of a teaser.....


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - The Horrible Esthete - 05-23-2008

and dont knock EISs. I make a living writing those! :? :mrgreen:


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - VioletlightHeron - 05-23-2008

The Horrible Esthete Wrote:and dont knock EISs. I make a living writing those! :? :mrgreen:
my condolences to your synapses, my good sir Big Grin :thumb:


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - NegPhil - 05-23-2008

The Oil companies have not built new refineries in order to control the supply. The Oil companies themselves and Oil speculators are the cause of high gas prices not "regulation" or tree huggers.

"Congress is demanding explanations from oil company executives who are making millions as their companies make billions. This week in an attempt to bring down prices, President Bush signed a new law that would halt oil from being added to the nation`s strategic oil reserves. But the president of the North Dakota Petroleum Marketers Association says 55-60% of the oil price crisis is the result of speculators like a New York man who just made a bundle of cash at your expense.

NDPMA President Mike Rud explains, "He took possession of the oil on paper four years ago and sold it here a couple of weeks ago, and it was a $307 million profit."

Rud says Congress needs to take action soon to stop the rampant oil speculation.

"We need to force these traders to take possession of at least 25-50% of this commodity,"


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - The Horrible Esthete - 05-23-2008

Quote:This week in an attempt to bring down prices, President Bush signed a new law that would halt oil from being added to the nation`s strategic oil reserves.

Way to take the issue head-on, fellas

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Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - Detrious - 05-23-2008

OK, assuming that we are talking the US gallon, which is 3.785 litres, I am currently paying $9.50 Canadian for one...

It's £1.28 a litre here, highest in Europe I think...
We're screwed.

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(and the math has been 1.28 x 3.785 = 4.8448 Conversion from £ to Can$ = 1.96099)


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - tth_fan - 05-23-2008

It is fucking stupid that Canadians are paying so much for gas. We have the oil in the country!!!
It's because we're selling it off. For those who don't know Jasper National Park now has a pipeline running through it so we can get oil to the coast more efficiently, and sell it overseas. A pipeline in a NATIONAL PARK!!!

We need to go back to what Trudeau wanted to do back in the '80's. Tell the other countries, "Nothing personal, but we need our oil". That way we keep it, have it at a fair price, and it's about looking out for one another... not about the $$$.
Frustrating thing is, the pig-headed tories are saying they're not stepping in to stop this ridiculous increase. Unbelievable.


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - chris - 05-23-2008

tth_fan Wrote:It is fucking stupid that Canadians are paying so much for gas. We have the oil in the country!!!
It's because we're selling it off. For those who don't know Jasper National Park now has a pipeline running through it so we can get oil to the coast more efficiently, and sell it overseas. A pipeline in a NATIONAL PARK!!!

We need to go back to what Trudeau wanted to do back in the '80's. Tell the other countries, "Nothing personal, but we need our oil". That way we keep it, have it at a fair price, and it's about looking out for one another... not about the $$$.
Frustrating thing is, the pig-headed tories are saying they're not stepping in to stop this ridiculous increase. Unbelievable.
What we need to do is develop an economy not based on renewable, sustainable resources.


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - VioletlightHeron - 05-23-2008

chris Wrote:
tth_fan Wrote:It is fucking stupid that Canadians are paying so much for gas. We have the oil in the country!!!
It's because we're selling it off. For those who don't know Jasper National Park now has a pipeline running through it so we can get oil to the coast more efficiently, and sell it overseas. A pipeline in a NATIONAL PARK!!!

We need to go back to what Trudeau wanted to do back in the '80's. Tell the other countries, "Nothing personal, but we need our oil". That way we keep it, have it at a fair price, and it's about looking out for one another... not about the $$$.
Frustrating thing is, the pig-headed tories are saying they're not stepping in to stop this ridiculous increase. Unbelievable.
What we need to do is develop an economy not based on renewable, sustainable resources.

Err, should that "not" not be in there, Chris? Color me confused.

With regards to TTH_Fan's ideas, I find it highly ironic that a western canadian would advocate the economic shafting of his own province.


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - tth_fan - 05-23-2008

VioletlightHeron Wrote:
chris Wrote:
tth_fan Wrote:It is fucking stupid that Canadians are paying so much for gas. We have the oil in the country!!!
It's because we're selling it off. For those who don't know Jasper National Park now has a pipeline running through it so we can get oil to the coast more efficiently, and sell it overseas. A pipeline in a NATIONAL PARK!!!

We need to go back to what Trudeau wanted to do back in the '80's. Tell the other countries, "Nothing personal, but we need our oil". That way we keep it, have it at a fair price, and it's about looking out for one another... not about the $$$.
Frustrating thing is, the pig-headed tories are saying they're not stepping in to stop this ridiculous increase. Unbelievable.
What we need to do is develop an economy not based on renewable, sustainable resources.

Err, should that "not" not be in there, Chris? Color me confused.

With regards to TTH_Fan's ideas, I find it highly ironic that a western canadian would advocate the economic shafting of his own province.
Ya, I might live in Alberta, but I'm no western canadian. I'm French Canadian. Even if I was from Alberta, I'm sick of the government here only thinking about the present, and not the future. The next generation, if not the one after that, might be piss poor in Alberta.


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - cferneyh - 05-24-2008

VioletlightHeron Wrote:With regards to TTH_Fan's ideas, I find it highly ironic that a western canadian would advocate the economic shafting of his own province.

I'm also guessing that he's too young to know that the implications in Alberta of Trudeau's National Energy Program resulted were thousands of people walking away from their homes (as real estate prices dropped 40%), and bankruptcies increased 150%.

I'm from Ontario, so the NEP certainly didn't impact my family like it impacted people who grew up here, but in talking to people who did grow up here, you'd think it happened yesterday (and it certainly explains the long standing contempt that many Albertans feel towards the Liberal party).


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - chris - 05-24-2008

VioletlightHeron Wrote:Err, should that "not" not be in there, Chris? Color me confused.
You are correct... I was in a huff and started out writing that we should not base everything on a single depleting and polluting resource.... changed my mind and didn't proof read what I posted.

Let's try that again: "What we need to do is develop an economy based on renewable, sustainable resources."


Re: Maybe THIS is why gas prices are so high! - emperor penguin - 05-24-2008

chris Wrote:
VioletlightHeron Wrote:Err, should that "not" not be in there, Chris? Color me confused.
You are correct... I was in a huff and started out writing that we should not base everything on a single depleting and polluting resource.... changed my mind and didn't proof read what I posted.

Let's try that again: "What we need to do is develop an economy based on renewable, sustainable resources."

Chris, that would make too much sense. Why would we do that when we can just keep using oil until the economy to crashes?