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Re: MLB - 2008 - cferneyh - 06-20-2008
grimes Wrote:Jays fire John Gibbons and half his coaching staff, bringing back Cito Gaston and half his coaching staff. I was never a big fan of Gibby but I had actually warmed up to him a bit this season - you really can't blame him for the fact his players have forgotten how to hit when guys are on base. But as is usually the case in pro sports you can't fire the players mid-season, so you fire the coach. And who knows, maybe Cito can turn this around....if he remembers how to manage that is, he's only been out of the game for about a decade. If not hopefully Riccarrdi will also be gone at the end of the season. Luckily they had the sense to keep pitching coach Brad Arnsberg - he's always been the mvp of this coaching staff.
Cito is managing the Jays......Fletcher is the Leafs' GM..........who dropped me in this time machine and how do I go about buying shares in RIM?
Re: MLB - 2008 - emperor penguin - 06-20-2008
cferneyh Wrote:grimes Wrote:Jays fire John Gibbons and half his coaching staff, bringing back Cito Gaston and half his coaching staff. I was never a big fan of Gibby but I had actually warmed up to him a bit this season - you really can't blame him for the fact his players have forgotten how to hit when guys are on base. But as is usually the case in pro sports you can't fire the players mid-season, so you fire the coach. And who knows, maybe Cito can turn this around....if he remembers how to manage that is, he's only been out of the game for about a decade. If not hopefully Riccarrdi will also be gone at the end of the season. Luckily they had the sense to keep pitching coach Brad Arnsberg - he's always been the mvp of this coaching staff.
Cito is managing the Jays......Fletcher is the Leafs' GM..........who dropped me in this time machine and how do I go about buying shares in RIM?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumb:
I am absolutely shocked about this.. can't say I'm surprised about Gibby getting canned, but bringing in Cito.. wow. I was about ready to give up going to Jays games this year, but now I wanna go just to see Cito again
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 06-29-2008
Does Devon White have a deep rooted hate for Robbie Alomar? Taken from a Steve Simmons article:
So Devon White was asked a simple question on TSN's Off The Record: "Robbie Alomar, Hall of Famer or not?" White's strange and uncomfortable answer: "Next question."
I don't remember White having a big problem with Alomar. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. Alomar is only one of the greatest 2nd baseman in MLB history, but White can't come to grips with this, I guess.
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Re: MLB - 2008 - emperor penguin - 06-29-2008
tigerthelion Wrote:Does Devon White have a deep rooted hate for Robbie Alomar? Taken from a Steve Simmons article:
So Devon White was asked a simple question on TSN's Off The Record: "Robbie Alomar, Hall of Famer or not?" White's strange and uncomfortable answer: "Next question."
I don't remember White having a big problem with Alomar. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. Alomar is only one of the greatest 2nd baseman in MLB history, but White can't come to grips with this, I guess.
Maybe White was really offended when Alomar spit in that umps face that one time and made a comment to him about his son having cancer.. I really have no idea, but that might be a possible reason.
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 06-30-2008
emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:Does Devon White have a deep rooted hate for Robbie Alomar? Taken from a Steve Simmons article:
So Devon White was asked a simple question on TSN's Off The Record: "Robbie Alomar, Hall of Famer or not?" White's strange and uncomfortable answer: "Next question."
I don't remember White having a big problem with Alomar. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. Alomar is only one of the greatest 2nd baseman in MLB history, but White can't come to grips with this, I guess.
Maybe White was really offended when Alomar spit in that umps face that one time and made a comment to him about his son having cancer.. I really have no idea, but that might be a possible reason.
Alomar spitting in an umpire's face certainly is pretty despicable but not even close enough to even think of keeping him out of the HOF for. The comment to White about his son having cancer, I did not know about. Me thinks that is the reason for the dislike.
Re: MLB - 2008 - The Horrible Esthete - 06-30-2008
tigerthelion Wrote:I guess JP agrees with you about Dunn.
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:lol: :lol:
This was all over local sportstalk radio here the morning after JP made the remarks. We left on vacation the following day, and this is the first time I've logged on here since we got back.
I was LMAO when I heard the audio of JP's comments. Though I do agree that the extent of his comments was rather unprofessional (he could've left alot of that stuff unsaid), the truth is that he's DEAD ON -- the things he said are precisely why Dunn hasn't been traded in the last few years.
Re: MLB - 2008 - emperor penguin - 06-30-2008
tigerthelion Wrote:emperor penguin Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:Does Devon White have a deep rooted hate for Robbie Alomar? Taken from a Steve Simmons article:
So Devon White was asked a simple question on TSN's Off The Record: "Robbie Alomar, Hall of Famer or not?" White's strange and uncomfortable answer: "Next question."
I don't remember White having a big problem with Alomar. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. Alomar is only one of the greatest 2nd baseman in MLB history, but White can't come to grips with this, I guess.
Maybe White was really offended when Alomar spit in that umps face that one time and made a comment to him about his son having cancer.. I really have no idea, but that might be a possible reason.
Alomar spitting in an umpire's face certainly is pretty despicable but not even close enough to even think of keeping him out of the HOF for. The comment to White about his son having cancer, I did not know about. Me thinks that is the reason for the dislike.
no, the comment was made to the ump whose face he spit at, but I can understand how someone else would lose respect for the person, or take offense to something like that.
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 07-01-2008
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Anyway, it is definitely a low point of Alomar's career but it's not a huge deal to me. He lost his temper. Alomar is still one of the greatest ever second baseman and a simple, "YES" as an answer by Devon would have been the proper thing to say.
Re: MLB - 2008 - emperor penguin - 07-01-2008
tigerthelion Wrote:Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Anyway, it is definitely a low point of Alomar's career but it's not a huge deal to me. He lost his temper. Alomar is still one of the greatest ever second baseman and a simple, "YES" as an answer by Devon would have been the proper thing to say.
oh, I know what you're saying, and I definitely think he should make the Hall of Fame, but I was just speculating as to why Devo answered that way.
Re: MLB - 2008 - grimes - 07-03-2008
Apparently the Jays are shopping AJ Burnett in hopes of getting a real shortstop. Not sure who would give up a real shortstop for a mediocre power pitcher with "great stuff" but a career .500 record, and who's essentially a free agent at the end of the year, but hey it's worth trying I guess.
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 07-04-2008
grimes Wrote:Apparently the Jays are shopping AJ Burnett in hopes of getting a real shortstop. Not sure who would give up a real shortstop for a mediocre power pitcher with "great stuff" but a career .500 record, and who's essentially a free agent at the end of the year, but hey it's worth trying I guess.
J.P. is the Doug Maclean of Major League Baseball. How he has kept his job is beyond me.
Re: MLB - 2008 - grimes - 07-05-2008
tigerthelion Wrote:J.P. is the Doug Maclean of Major League Baseball. How he has kept his job is beyond me.Can't argue with that. We're in year seven of JP's five year plan, and never mind making the playoffs, the Jays haven't realistically been in a playoff race in September once during his tenure (or August for that matter).
Re: MLB - 2008 - The Horrible Esthete - 07-08-2008
grimes Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:J.P. is the Doug Maclean of Major League Baseball. How he has kept his job is beyond me.Can't argue with that. We're in year seven of JP's five year plan, and never mind making the playoffs, the Jays haven't realistically been in a playoff race in September once during his tenure (or August for that matter).
It's awful hard to expect a team in the AL East who isn't New York or Boston to do a whole lot better than post a record of 292-283 from 2005-present. I know that to a fan base, the claim that your team has reeled off two winning seasons in a row means next to nothing when niether resulted in a playoff appearance, but the fact of the matter is that there are only EIGHT clubs can claim that accomplishment, and three of them are in the same division:
Red Sox
Yankees
Blue Jays
Tigers
Angels
Phillies
Mets
Dodgers
The Blue Jays have it rough. They play in the division that has been the toughest over the last decade, and let's face it: Toronto is "B-list" compared to many other MLB markets when it comes to preferred free-agent destinations.
My Reds, on the other hand, are working on their EIGHTH CONSECUTIVE losing season, and their THRITEENTH CONSECUTIVE season without a playoff appearance; and this is long after we were promised a "contender" by the time the new ballpark opened -- and that was freaking 2003. They haven't finished above .500 once since they made that promise.
:nooooo
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 07-08-2008
The Horrible Esthete Wrote:grimes Wrote:tigerthelion Wrote:J.P. is the Doug Maclean of Major League Baseball. How he has kept his job is beyond me.Can't argue with that. We're in year seven of JP's five year plan, and never mind making the playoffs, the Jays haven't realistically been in a playoff race in September once during his tenure (or August for that matter).
It's awful hard to expect a team in the AL East who isn't New York or Boston to do a whole lot better than post a record of 292-283 from 2005-present. I know that to a fan base, the claim that your team has reeled off two winning seasons in a row means next to nothing when niether resulted in a playoff appearance, but the fact of the matter is that there are only EIGHT clubs can claim that accomplishment, and three of them are in the same division:
Red Sox
Yankees
Blue Jays
Tigers
Angels
Phillies
Mets
Dodgers
The Blue Jays have it rough. They play in the division that has been the toughest over the last decade, and let's face it: Toronto is "B-list" compared to many other MLB markets when it comes to preferred free-agent destinations.
My Reds, on the other hand, are working on their EIGHTH CONSECUTIVE losing season, and their THRITEENTH CONSECUTIVE season without a playoff appearance; and this is long after we were promised a "contender" by the time the new ballpark opened -- and that was freaking 2003. They haven't finished above .500 once since they made that promise.
:nooooo
Let's face it- J.P. sucks. The Jays have a payroll of around 100 million, don't they? That should be enough money to put a team on the field to contend with anybody. Just because the Reds, and a lot of other teams are run horribly, shouldn't take J.P. off the hook. He simply is not a bright GM. If Pat Gillick was still in TO, you can bet your bottom dollar the team would be a lot better. Seriously, when is the last time J.P. spent wisely on a free agent? Look at his recent acquisitions. Frank Thomas, Burnett, Eckstein, Shannon Stewart. C'mon. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Two winning seasons in a row? Big deal. The Indians had a losing season and rebounded the next season where they were a game away from the World Series. I think most fans would trade in two or three or four or even five mediocore winning seasons for one great season and a shot at the WS. Four of those teams on your list won the big one. Toronto hasn't even been close. Every team on your list except Toronto has been in the playoffs recently. Toronto hasn't even been close. I think Shapiro is vastly overrated as a GM but even he had a team that, last season, was tied for the most wins in the league, and had a payroll nowhere near that of Toronto's.
Fans aren't looking for mediocrity. They aren't looking for a team that hovers around .500 every season. With some wise management, there's no reason why the Jays, with their budget, can't compete with everyone.
Re: MLB - 2008 - tigerthelion - 07-08-2008
Is there a bigger mockery than the dumb slug, Jason Varitek, being named an All-Star? I think not. :rambo: :rambo: