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Re: NHL - skippy the wonder dog - 09-22-2009

cferneyh Wrote:I wonder in what other league a team can consistently be top five in salary expense (pre-cap) and non-fans call that "running purposely to be a permanent underdog"?

I'm sorry, is that an attempt at logic?

I can draft badly, and build myself a team largely consisting of gritty also-rans, but if I overpay them then this demonstrates I haven't built an underdog team?

Salary expense is a nice, simple number to work with, but that's not a replacement for actual analysis. And here you always said you like Duhatschek ... look at his columns, and see if you can advance an explanation for why the Leafs have been so badly managed up to now. Simple answer, man: because they've got away with it, and they knew they were getting away with it, so they had no incentive to change.

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Re: NHL - The Darkest Canuck - 09-22-2009

The Leafs are like the government, they always fuck up, and if you cheer for them, you are an idiot.

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Re: NHL - Lizard King - 09-22-2009

The Darkest Canuck Wrote:The Leafs are like the government, they always f**k up, and if you cheer for them, you are an idiot.

It is Loser Nation after all.

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Re: NHL - kleh - 09-22-2009

im excited to see that tampa/edmonton game thursday on tsn live from the 'peg!

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Re: NHL - Lizard King - 09-22-2009

kleh Wrote:im excited to see that tampa/edmonton game thursday on tsn live from the 'peg!

why? cratch:

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Re: NHL - cferneyh - 09-24-2009

skippy the wonder dog Wrote:I can draft badly

cferneyh Wrote:.....players not meeting expectations

skippy the wonder dog Wrote:build myself a team largely consisting of gritty also-rans, but if I overpay them

cferneyh Wrote:.....piss poor management

Really skippy? Really?

Anyway, your underdog theory is, well, stupid.

MLSE wants to make money. This is a fact. Four rounds of the playoffs with jacked up ticket prices and low, low expenses (players don't get paid for playoffs) would bring in a boatload of cash. This is a fact. But no, in skippy-land MLSE owners want to play the "underdog" card, because somehow that would be better for business. Sure. Makes sense. I'd love for you to explain to me how being the underdog is better for business than, you know, on-ice results. And while you are at it, maybe you should explain this to the Detroit Red Wings, who somehow haven't grasped this underdog theory.

And while I'd love to humour you and run off and review whatever Duhatschek has written to support this totally idiotic "underdog" theory, understand this: just because I like Duhatschek, doesn't mean I always agree with Duhatschek.

And back to the Habs, should I assume that this will be Year 17 of their "underdog" plan? :lol:

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Re: NHL - Lizard King - 09-24-2009

Speaking of underdogs,Theo Fleury is really making a case for wanting to come back. Flames fans, think should they sign him up?

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Re: NHL - laliber - 09-24-2009

Finally! Breeze-by Says Good-bye oh and Gretz is out too
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 01:58 PM

Brisebois bids adieu
Sean Gordon

The often brilliant and occasionally infuriating defenceman once derided as Breeze-by, is hanging up his skates.

The Montreal Canadiens will be honouring former rearguard Patrice Brisebois, before tonight's exhibition game against Boston by handing him the Jean Beliveau trophy for community involvement.

A press statement issued by the team added the 38-year-old Montreal native will also use the occasion to announce his retirement - not a huge surprise given he hadn't received any contract offers for the upcming season.

We expect you may yet see Brisebois again on your TV screen, he's an amateur race car driver of some repute, and has been widely speculated about as future coaching material.

Brisebois, the team's last remaining link to the 1993 Stanley Cup team, had a distinguished second act in Montreal, rendered all the more surprising given the relentless boos that preceded his exit to Colorado (much of it had to do with his hefty $4.5 million annual salary - a hefty ticket for a guy who was adept on the power-play but rarely accused of playing in his own end).

Presumably fans will remember Brisebois the classy team guy - he mostly played a bit role on the ice last season - who suited up for more than 1,000 NHL games over 14 years with Montreal and a couple more in Colorado.

"Whenever I was in a rough patch or needed advice I knew I could count on him, and I still can," said Habs winger Guillaume Latendresse. "He's lived everything there is to live in Montreal, good and bad. He's a guy who had an amazing career, he can hang 'em up with his head held high."

Added defenceman Josh Gorges, who shared the ice with Brisebois for two seasons and thinks he could be a good coach, "there's a lot about him to admire."

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Re: NHL - skippy the wonder dog - 09-25-2009

Lizard King Wrote:Speaking of underdogs,Theo Fleury is really making a case for wanting to come back. Flames fans, think should they sign him up?

Well, they didn't.

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Re: NHL - skippy the wonder dog - 09-25-2009

cferneyh Wrote:MLSE wants to make money. This is a fact.

And my view is that they took note of something in their fan base, and branded themselves as underdogs accordingly. And that they've now changed their tune because they realize that fans don't want underdogs anymore.

I don't know why you feel the need to play some schoolyard game of "I know you are, but what am I" re the Habs performance, but it's not going to work. I've outgrown the schoolyard, and I'm not going to play.

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Re: NHL - Lizard King - 09-30-2009

Finally!

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Mats Sundin has ended the speculation and has officially announced his retirement.

The former Toronto Maple Leafs captain made the announcement around 6:40am eastern at a press conference in Sweden.

Sundin leaves the NHL having amassed 1,349 points, ranking him 25th on the all-time list.

Sundin ranks 4th in points among European born players and holds the records for goals (420), game winning goals (79), powerplay goals (124) and points (987) with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Great career and one of the few Leaf players over the years I could actually stand to watch. Thats all your getting from me Mats. :thumb:

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Re: NHL - thedarkcanuck - 09-30-2009

Lizard King Wrote:Finally!

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Mats Sundin has ended the speculation and has officially announced his retirement.

The former Toronto Maple Leafs captain made the announcement around 6:40am eastern at a press conference in Sweden.

Sundin leaves the NHL having amassed 1,349 points, ranking him 25th on the all-time list.

Sundin ranks 4th in points among European born players and holds the records for goals (420), game winning goals (79), powerplay goals (124) and points (987) with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Great career and one of the few Leaf players over the years I could actually stand to watch. Thats all your getting from me Mats. :thumb:

hope he doesn`t pull a favre

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Re: NHL - laliber - 09-30-2009

no longer just a spring thing - now it is full time Mats :thumb:

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Re: NHL - Lizard King - 09-30-2009

What a punk, Sergei Kostitsyn refused to be sent down to AHL Hamilton and now is demanding a trade?

Are you fucking kidding me? When you only score 17 goals and 33 assists in 108 games in the NHL, who are you to demand anything? You should be lucky Montreal even keeps you around..go play in the KHL assface.

I hate whiners.. :rambo:

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Re: NHL - The Darkest Canuck - 09-30-2009

If I were Bob Gainey, I would try to ship him and his bro as a package deal to LA for Frolov and whatever else we can get in return.

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