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Zenith - 10-29-2006
Thanks guys, This thread has become really interesting.
Personally, I can definitely see both sides of the story. When I was younger, and listening to heavier music more often, the gig experience was all about moshing. As I've gotten older though, and my tastes have changed I don't really want that from a gig. I think one of the major factors has been the rapid improvement in Cameras and personal Recording Equiptment has meant that its easy to get really great band photos and audio/visual recordings which I really enjoy.
I have no problem with people who want to mosh etc (although, crowd sufing is a little different as it's difficult to see them coming - and being tall I often fall foul of wayward feet and hands. However, crowd surfing is banned at many venues over here). If moshpits kick off now, I tend to just move to the side so I can watch the band. I definitely prefer standing though - I always find there to be more atmosphere.
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clearlyentranced - 10-29-2006
BIGVDOGG Wrote:IT AINT A CONCERT IF YOU DONT GET A LITTLE BEER SPILLED ON YA! IF IT GETS TOO WILD....STEP BACK.GUESS NONE OF THESE PEOPLES HAVE BEEN TO THE EARLY HIP SHOWS!(LOL)
If you're attending the Hamilton show, please tell me where your seats are so I'll know to stay away.lol.
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BIGVDOGG - 10-29-2006
I WILL BE AT THE HAMILTON SHOW BUT IM USUALLY THE ONE GETTING BEER SPILLED ON ME THESE DAYS(LOL).I JUST REMEMBER THE MOLSON PARK DAYS OF BATTLING TO GET TO THE FRONT ONLY TO GET A BOOT IN THE HEAD FROM SOME CRAZY ASS SURFER!NOW I PICK AND CHOOSE MY SPOTS!FRONT ROW AT THE PHOENIX TAKES THE CAKE!
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tigerthelion - 10-29-2006
BIGVDOGG Wrote:I WILL BE AT THE HAMILTON SHOW BUT IM USUALLY THE ONE GETTING BEER SPILLED ON ME THESE DAYS(LOL).I JUST REMEMBER THE MOLSON PARK DAYS OF BATTLING TO GET TO THE FRONT ONLY TO GET A BOOT IN THE HEAD FROM SOME CRAZY ASS SURFER!NOW I PICK AND CHOOSE MY SPOTS!FRONT ROW AT THE PHOENIX TAKES THE CAKE!
If moshing and kicking and elbowing is so cool, why do you have to pick and choose your spot? Wouldn't it be cool to be anywhere, since the violence is acceptable in your eyes. Just because the Hip shows used to be rougher doesn't mean a thing. It was wrong back then and it's wrong today. Any person with any sense of decency and respect would avoid doing bodily harm to another person at a concert. It's called being a decent human being.
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BIGVDOGG - 10-29-2006
WELL I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS PERSONAL! DIDNT SAY IT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG JUST THE WAY IT IS.....ROCK AND ROLL! TAKE A PILL!
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opiated - 10-29-2006
BIGVDOGG Wrote:WELL I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS PERSONAL! DIDNT SAY IT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG JUST THE WAY IT IS.....ROCK AND ROLL! TAKE A PILL!
stop yelling at us!
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opiated - 10-29-2006
The Darkest Canuck Wrote:says the pussy who won't mosh...you're just too old perhaps? too faint of heart?
it's like a rockin game of football without a ball...YA BIG FUCKIN PANSY!
yeah.i'm a pussy cause i don't like getting kicked or elbowed in the head..i'm a pussy cause i can enjoy music without the urge to hurt somebody else..i'm the pussy cause i think you're a fuckin idiot
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opiated - 10-29-2006
crowd surfing went out with acid wash
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Billy - 10-29-2006
no more all caps please...I'm feeling abused.
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The Darkest Canuck - 10-29-2006
opiated Wrote:The Darkest Canuck Wrote:says the pussy who won't mosh...you're just too old perhaps? too faint of heart?
it's like a rockin game of football without a ball...YA BIG FUCKIN PANSY!
yeah.i'm a pussy cause i don't like getting kicked or elbowed in the head..i'm a pussy cause i can enjoy music without the urge to hurt somebody else..i'm the pussy cause i think you're a fuckin idiot
it'sa not about hurting people...that's the dumbest thing posted in this thread yet...don't be such a big poop-stick in the mud...jeez...it's nice to see you got your panties all in a twist over this though... :thumb:...
get that sand out of your vagina...and NO, I'm not joking this time either! :rambo:
you should not go to concerts if you can't deal with this shit...wait til the dvd comes out...or go sit in the section for people in wheelchairs...you should be safe there :roll:
or here's another idea (and this is a good one so pay attention), grow yourself a set, be a fucking man, and stand up for yourself if you've got a problem with someone...i'm not saying start a fight...but tell them you've got a problem with what they're doing...don't wait til you're at home at you computer and bitch about it here...what the hell is that going to accomplish? chances are those people aren't going to end up reading your comments...and if you're so greatly outnumbered that there's no point in saying anything about it to anyone, TOUGH SHIT! it's a free and democratic society...majority rules...even if they're idiots in your opinion...do you think i'm happy about the results of our last federal elction? fuck no! it made us look like a bunch of retarded sheep with our heads up the USA's anus... BUT, i don't cry about it on here everyday, no, instead, i patiently await the next election, when i'll have a chance to do something about it...my party never wins...does that discourage me...no, i know what i believe in, and i'll never EVER, be afraid to stand up for my beliefs...wether they be political, musical, religious...w/e the case, i will be heard, wether you or anybody else likes what i have to say or not.
END RANT :x
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BIGVDOGG - 10-29-2006
that better!sorry to make you feel! just dont know how personal attacks have anything to do with the conversation! 11 died in cincinatti because of g.a. its partly the venue,security and the bands responsability as well as the patrons to keep it safe! ive been to 200 concerts and never moshed(lol).different strokes for different folks! doesnt mean the music is shit or the person there is shit! i just know what to expect and being 6-5 260, im prepared for anything.like i said these days im usually the 1 people look to including my 5-4 fiance for stabilaty in a crazy crowd! p.s-i dont like to hurt people!
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The Darkest Canuck - 10-29-2006
ya, i'm not saying that moshing is for everyone, or that it isn't dangerous (typically though nobody gets hurt and all involved have a good time), what i'm saying is that people who don't mosh DO NOT have the right to portray those who do as lesser fans, or "idiots"...just because they have a different idea of what having a good time is? c'mon, i thought we were supposed to be all about acceptance and tolerance here in the 21st century...perhaps i was mistaken.
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Bobkajun - 10-29-2006
BIGVDOGG Wrote:that better!sorry to make you feel! just dont know how personal attacks have anything to do with the conversation! 11 died in cincinatti because of g.a. its partly the venue,security and the bands responsability as well as the patrons to keep it safe! ive been to 200 concerts and never moshed(lol).different strokes for different folks! doesnt mean the music is shit or the person there is shit! i just know what to expect and being 6-5 260, im prepared for anything.like i said these days im usually the 1 people look to including my 5-4 fiance for stabilaty in a crazy crowd! p.s-i dont like to hurt people!
lol...I got 30 lbs on you.
I love throwing kids around...fuckin near through this one idiot right onto the stage.
Whats really funny is when a guy takes a dive and nobody catches him.
I also like keeping the idiots away cuz that when the chicks move in and start dancin.
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The Darkest Canuck - 10-29-2006
and i bet at 290 you don't get much poon-tang pie eh? :roll:
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Bobkajun - 10-29-2006
hahahaha...
I'm married....20th anniversary coming up !
another reason the chicks like dancin around me...I'm clearly not a threat with my wife by my side!
We've been in some interesting clubs let me tell you!.
The moshing is ok ...just as you want people to respect your right to mosh its not unfair to give the other fans around you the same consideration and respect. We all want to have fun and see the band !