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Re: Politics - jgardz - 12-12-2012

The last 2 points were very well said, and I agree to a point: however, I'm not bothered by it either way. Gords occasional political rants are fine by me, as I never feel as though he's too over-the-top about it. As a teacher, I especially agree with his views on McGuinty...BUT I don't look to the hip as a political band...at least, not in the same vane as Pearl Jam or whomever...
I guess if I had to choose, I'd say keep the politics to a minimum at shows, though Rock has always been tied to politics in many ways, either directly or indirectly, so I'm certainly not offended by it...

Re: Politics - cortezthekiller - 12-13-2012

It doesn't really bother me that much that he mentions political issues at Hip shows, but I could do without it. There really is no need for it at a music concert. At least he doesn't do it in the over-the-top, nauseating manner that Bono does it, so I guess we can all be happy about that.

Re: Politics - Moosehead - 12-15-2012

Most non-country artists seem left-of-centre.
The Hip and Gord make the occasional comment but it's not what they're about.

Re: Politics - Roy-at-tth - 12-15-2012

I don't mind it at all, even if I disagree with what's being expressed. I just listened to the Pittsburgh show from 2006 with gord screaming "BRING THEM HOME" at the end of Grace, too re: the war in Afghanistan. I disagree with it, but I like to see the passion. I think it is cool to see the other perspective presented in a way. I appreciate bands using their place to make the world a better place, whatever it may mean to them. You're getting the music either way, so you are getting what you paid for. It's not like you are being indoctrinated or forced to buy into it. This is why Bono doesn't bother me much either. I think we all long to have what we do matter, and I think bands want more than just to be about playing that tune that everyone knows.

Re: Politics - Kevala - 12-21-2012

There are basically only two ways to view the world, our relationships with others, and ourselves. Every thought, feeling or perception is either based in fear or in love. Everyone we meet, every situation we experience, every feeling we have is rooted in either love or fear. This extends from individual reactions inside each of us to global realities -- war, politics, economics, belief systems of all kinds. For example, nations that base their thinking in fear will attack or be attacked by others.

Most, if notall, of the countries in the world today are operating primarily from fear. Each year, enormous wealth isdevoted to the tools of war -- the resultant loss to other areas of human endeavor is inconceivable. Japanand Germany, forced since their defeat in WWII to be essentially non-violent, have experienced unparalleled economic growth and today largely dominate the world marketplace. Switzerland, usually at peacewith herself and the world since the first clans came together at Lake Lucerne in 1291, boasts moremillionaires per citizen than any other country.

How much richer would we all be if we had not been such aviolent race?But what of aggressive nations? Is it not our duty to protect the innocent? Did not the Nazis andthen the communists need to be confronted, contained, defeated? This argument is like examining a single piece of a complex object to discover what it is.

Quote:Imagine six blind men asked to stretch out their hands to feel one small area of an elephant and then told todescribe what an elephant is. One touches only the tusk and declares that elephant is another name for aspear. Another touches the tail and knows that elephants are ropes. The man touching the leg is certainelephants are trees and so on. Each is perfectly correct in their interpretation of the specific informationsupplied, but woefully wrong in terms of the whole.

Similarly in terms of world events. If you have already cut off an arm, of course you must apply a tourniquet to keep the patient from bleeding to death. The point is that there was never the necessity of cutting off an arm. Hitler, and the other political aggressors of history, have never acted without help and support from others. If they had attempted to act alone, the mental hospitals would have locked them up long before they could have caused anyone else any trouble. The vibratory rate of the Germanic speaking peoples produced Hitler.

The collective desire or race consciousness of the people of the world created the necessary preconditions for the Second World War, just as has been the case for every war since human beings started having wars.

The point is that if we as human beings are not in fact limited to the three-dimensional reality that our senses reveal to us, then the rational laws we have applied to judge guilt and innocence must be false-- from a higher dimensional perspective. The frightful concerns of the child are seen by the mature adult as being easy to solve. A young boy cries in agony and fear when the wheel falls off his favorite truck. The father, seeing that it is only a toy, sympathizes deeply, perhaps chuckling slightly that something so small and inconsequential could cause such a fuss -- but what will the same father do if the wheel falls off his truck?

The criminal, judged by his peers as worthy of imprisonment or death, from a higher-dimensional perspective is an energy stream of immortal life acting out all possibilities in his/her required sequence of growth back home. Roots of a tree go in many directions and deep to create the basis for a powerful and dynamic living structure.A given entity may choose a life that is viewed as bad or sinful by the majority of humanity simply to learn humility or compassion, or to curb self-importance, or occasionally to help others caught by the belief systems of our cultures.