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beanmedic Wrote:
fingernailsonhull Wrote:I've been watching the polls very closely. Especially broken down by region. It's possible that a Bloc sweep of Quebec (or something close to it) could mean a Tory minority without a plurality of the votes nationwide. It's undemocratic but such is the system in which we live. Almost all majority governments have had far less than 50% of the popular vote.

tory minority? are you serious? look for the conservatives to actually lose seats.

Just because that's what you want to happen doesn't necessarily make it so. I was highlighting a remote possibility. I am expecting another Liberal minority out of this election. Calm down.
beanmedic Wrote:the 11 of you who voted for harper are probably retarded and shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.

Grow up.
beanmedic Wrote:
cferneyh Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:the 11 of you who voted for harper are probably retarded and shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.

With each passing day you sound more and more like Darkest Canuck.

the conservative ideas are bad. Read the WHO's publication The Solid Facts to see what the conservatives are doing wrong. It's only 33 pages.

EDIT: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf">http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf</a><!-- m -->

Did anyone take the time to read this?
beanmedic Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:
cferneyh Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:the 11 of you who voted for harper are probably retarded and shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.

With each passing day you sound more and more like Darkest Canuck.

the conservative ideas are bad. Read the WHO's publication The Solid Facts to see what the conservatives are doing wrong. It's only 33 pages.

EDIT: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf">http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf</a><!-- m -->

Did anyone take the time to read this?

You called me retarded, so no, I didn't read your propaganda. Me can't reed good.
Yeah I actually did read that report, and you are a tool. I don't see how it is, in any way, relevant to the Conservative platform.
blesser Wrote:Yeah I actually did read that report, and you are a tool. I don't see how it is, in any way, relevant to the Conservative platform.

well i'll spell it out for you.

Determinants of Health:

The Social Gradient
Stress
Early Life
Social Exclusion
Work
Unemployment
Social Support
Addiction
Food
Transport

We need to take care of these things for everyone to be healthy. The conservatives obviously dont give a shit about any of this. For example, there are an obscene number of families living below the poverty line in canada. They are negatively affected by multiple determinants of health. perhaps if we looked after the things that cause illness in the first place (see above) we wouldnt be worrying about long lines for health care. its a fact that poor people are generally much much sicker (we're talking incidence of disease, uncommon diseases, lower life expectancy, etc) than those who are financially stable. these people rely on social programs to get by in life, and in many cases these programs are still inadequate. we are at a time when we need increased social spending. So when we cut taxes, at what expense are we doing so? these very social programs. here are all the tax cuts that harper has promised so far:

*Immediately cut the GST to 6 per cent; the tax would be reduced further to 5 per cent within five years. (In New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Nova Scotia, the HST reduction will be the same: 1 per cent right away, and a further 1 per cent over five years.) Party says first cut would put "$4.5 billion back in the pockets of ordinary Canadians. "
*Reduce business, capital gains and payroll taxes, starting with lowering Employment Insurance premiums to the level necessary to pay for EI benefits
*Introduce tax relief, starting with reduced personal income tax rates
*Raise Basic Personal Exemption and Spousal Exemption under Income Tax Act
*Eliminate inequities between single and dual income families and introduce deduction for dependent children
*Reduce subsidies to for-profit businesses
*Reduce federal gas taxes conditional on an agreement with provinces and territories
*Cut or eliminate federal government fees, levies, taxes and rents, associated with national transportation system
*Establish program of tax credits to promote environmental solutions
(<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/static/issues/taxes.html">http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/sta ... taxes.html</a><!-- m -->)

So which programs will suffer as a result of the decreased tax revenue? It seems very scary that we would be willing to let more and more people fall below the poverty line just so a few upper midle class citizens can get some extra cash. this gst cut is stupid because you save more when you spend more. it doesnt benefit the poor (the ones who need help the most) because they hardly spend any money as it is. of course it will greatly benefit anyone who goes out and makes a big purchase like a car or something.

we need to start looking after our less fortunate a little better.
beanmedic Wrote:
cferneyh Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:the 11 of you who voted for harper are probably retarded and shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.

With each passing day you sound more and more like Darkest Canuck.

the conservative ideas are bad. Read the WHO's publication The Solid Facts to see what the conservatives are doing wrong. It's only 33 pages.

EDIT: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf">http://www.who.dk/document/e81384.pdf</a><!-- m -->[/quote

I am at a loss to understand how you can just call someone a retard for not agreeing with your view. What have you achieved in life to hold your personal opinion so high? Is your Boss a retard whenever his/her opinion is different than yours? You dont have any friends that have different opinions than you?

I am right wing in my thinking and I dont think I am a retard.

Good luck with that attitude...
beanmedic Wrote:the 11 of you who voted for harper are probably retarded and shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.

being retarted and all, i don't quite understand what you're saying..oh wait..i think i figured it out...you're an asshole...
i love how everone is freaking out about being called a name, but nobody else is too upset about what really matters.
beanmedic Wrote:i love how everone is freaking out about being called a name, but nobody else is too upset about what really matters.

You misunderstand what is going on. People don't really care about what you have to say or what WHO article you post because of non-sensical comments like those who favour Harper are retarded. Prove that you really want to debate an issue instead of just being a dink and people will listen to what you have to say. Until then, you will do absolutely nothing to further your own cause. In fact, you're hurting it.
beanmedic Wrote:i love how everone is freaking out about being called a name, but nobody else is too upset about what really matters.

and what really matters? that you're right and anybody who disagrees is a retard?
fingernailsonhull Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:i love how everone is freaking out about being called a name, but nobody else is too upset about what really matters.

You misunderstand what is going on. People don't really care about what you have to say or what WHO article you post because of non-sensical comments like those who favour Harper are retarded. Prove that you really want to debate an issue instead of just being a dink and people will listen to what you have to say. Until then, you will do absolutely nothing to further your own cause. In fact, you're hurting it.

Well put.
cferneyh Wrote:
fingernailsonhull Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:i love how everone is freaking out about being called a name, but nobody else is too upset about what really matters.

You misunderstand what is going on. People don't really care about what you have to say or what WHO article you post because of non-sensical comments like those who favour Harper are retarded. Prove that you really want to debate an issue instead of just being a dink and people will listen to what you have to say. Until then, you will do absolutely nothing to further your own cause. In fact, you're hurting it.

Well put.

well put? seriously? a humourous left wing crack, and everyone freaks out. when i made the comment i didnt care to debate, but if im in, im in. debate the issues with me and stop referring to the retarded comment.
Good old politics always causing fighting..and now the Hipbase...come on guys...

Did this happen the last election also?
Paul Martin, followed by Marc Garneau.

All the hype Iggy is getting, shift it to Marc, he's the man. If he doesn't run, then hopefully Stephane Dion or Martin Cauchon or Ujil Dosanjh will.
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