I'll try to explain a little further
1) If in fact its an "imposed" tour (which I believe it is). It takes the decision out of their hands. After 20 years of touring, I suspect they enjoy it on their terms
2) The US tour was grueling. For those that saw them at the end of it - we could tell that they were gutting it out on a couple of nights. And did a great job I might add. I think they may be getting a little (dare I say) old to relish that type of schedule
3) The overall dynamics of playing in numerous US cities (ie non border or northeast cities) I may get in trouble for this but I wonder how much enjoyment they derive from playing in front of some sparse crowds (relative) in towns that don't necessarily appreciate their efforts
Very little to back that up - just a gut feeling
I know what you're saying, and I agree
FMC Wrote:I'll try to explain a little further
1) If in fact its an "imposed" tour (which I believe it is). It takes the decision out of their hands. After 20 years of touring, I suspect they enjoy it on their terms
2) The US tour was grueling. For those that saw them at the end of it - we could tell that they were gutting it out on a couple of nights. And did a great job I might add. I think they may be getting a little (dare I say) old to relish that type of schedule
3) The overall dynamics of playing in numerous US cities (ie non border or northeast cities) I may get in trouble for this but I wonder how much enjoyment they derive from playing in front of some sparse crowds (relative) in towns that don't necessarily appreciate their efforts
Very little to back that up - just a gut feeling
I don't know if I agree with your 2nd point - a friend of a friend who knows Paul told me that Paul said this tour was their best received US tour to date. I know, I know - "friend of a friend", but I've got no reason to disbelieve this guy.
i also heard gord in the edge studios talking about another us tour, and i think it's time they come back to their #1 us city, buffalo and stay away from darien lake. they could play at a number of small venues as well as the hsbc arena, and should have no problem fitting 10-12,000 fans inside, let's go (to) buffalo!
Since it's their 20th anniversary, how about a combined US/Canada theatre tour not promoting anything, and just playing a mixture of old and new?
Nick
I get the grueling aspect, especially relative to their age, but I believe they tour as they do because they choose to. If management was in control (old or new) I'm pretty sure they would have played more than six shows in 2003 and one show in 2001.
I'm inclined to believe that The Hip is The Hip on their own terms, and no one else's.
I've been to plenty of shows in my day and it's obvious when a band is burned out, disinterested, and simply going through the motions. I've never seen The Hip give anything but 110% in any US venue, regardless of where it was in the tour schedule or how large or small the stage was. It may be different in the non-border states but it's difficult for me to visualize.
~Scott
I wonder if they'll come back to Sudbury for an arena show in 2005, i sure hope so *corsses fingers*.
A west coast tour will do nicely. Specifically Seattle, Portland, and Spokane.
I asked Rob about this back in Toledo. He said management was trying to push a 6 week 'red' states tour, with Boise, Fargo, and Ft. Wayne three places specifically mentioned. Fargo in February or early March? Sounds like fun. :roll:
I would think something more along the lines of a 3-4 week tour of places not visited yet plus some 'core' cities like Chicago, Detroit, and Buffalo to name three.
I'm hoping for Denver again, or Boulder.
We will see...
Jamie & Chris! Count me in on this road trip! hehehehe
Just park in Boston for a week and play a bunch of shows at the Somerville Theater. And one free show in Government Square. I'll take the week off and it'll be a glorious time. How 'bout it?

john cage Wrote:I asked Rob about this back in Toledo. He said management was trying to push a 6 week 'red' states tour, with Boise, Fargo, and Ft. Wayne three places specifically mentioned. Fargo in February or early March? Sounds like fun. :roll:
We will see...
It does if you're from Winnipeg!
It sounds good for those of us Hip fans in the Fargo area, too...i had heard rumblings of this for a while...Hip in Fargo...hopefully it comes to fruition.
john cage Wrote:Fargo in February or early March? Sounds like fun. :roll:
I meant this from a band standpoint. If you didn't live there (or somewhat close), would you want to go to Fargo in Feb or March?? Personally, I'd rather go somewhere warm, but that's just me.
Listen to what you're saying...these guys are from CANADA! DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY CARE HOW COLD IT IS?????????????????????? I assure you that they do not. They've played here in Sudbury in February and in December, both evenings were quite chilly/snowy/blowy.