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Awesome commentary on the NHL dispute and some grand old blues music. Enjoy!


Do the evolution
Tragically Hip continue to grow on latest album
By ROB WILLIAMS -- Winnipeg Sun

The NHL lockout is just road apples to Gord Downie.

Surprisingly, the frontman for Canada's unofficial national band Tragically Hip -- passionate fans who have penned their fair share of hockey songs over the years -- doesn't care about the lockout and cancellation of the country's national sport.

"It doesn't exist for me unless it's being played. It only exists in 60-minute time frames. I don't miss it at all," he says.

Downie doesn't stickhandle around the issue. He believes commissioner Gary Bettman doesn't want an end to the lockout until the players revolt against their union. He is firmly on the side of the players.

"My theory is Bettman wants to wait out until his southern expansion teams fold, that's 100 jobs lost that will break the union. He can't fold those teams but he can't admit he made a mistake, so he has to starve out various owners in terms of revenue sharing," he says.

The band's latest hockey song isn't so much about the sport as a player. Heaven is a Better Place Today was written about Dan Snyder, a member of the Atlanta Thrashers who died in a car crash last year.

Downie didn't know Snyder but was touched by his life story and the reaction to his death by his family, friends and fans.

"I wanted to commemorate it in some way, so this is an addition of everything that would go in that time capsule for Dan Snyder."

On a compilation album, the song might go well next to 50 Mission Cap, a song from 1993's Fully Completely about the disappearance and death of Toronto Maple Leafs player Bill Barilko.

The Kingston, Ont., quintet -- which also includes guitarists Rob Baker and Paul Langlois, bassist Gord Sinclair and drummer Johnny Fay -- have virtually defined and personified CanCon over the course of 10 albums in almost 20 years. Their latest CD, In Between Evolution, features some distinctly Canadian songs but expands their worldview with songs about the U.S. and the war in Iraq, as told through Downie's metaphorical poetry.

In Between Evolution -- named after the painting on the cover by Cameron Tomsett -- marks both a (duh) evolution and a return to the band's roots, thanks to the hiring of Seattle rock producer Adam Kasper (Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age), who helped them punch up their sound with a live off-the-floor recording approach.

"It's a common misconception we're happy. We're always pushing and challenging ourselves," Downie says. "Now we're at a position, 'Why don't we do it the way we used to?' Just go in and pound them out and tear them up.

"To me it plays to our strengths and makes it a natural progression from the studio to the stage. They feel and sound live."

Live is where the group are at their strongest. Downie compares them to an aging blues artist: Giving it all on stage every night until it hurts.

"I figure all our records are blues records. We're a band created for the long haul, like Howlin' Wolf or Muddy Waters. These are people that played well into their 70s. Howling Wolf, they would have to coax him down from the curtain from above the stage and he was 60 years old. That's rock 'n' roll," he says. "I'm going to be up there at 70. I'm too old to take a typing course."

Even though The Tragically Hip are arguably the most popular group in Canada, Downie is his own harshest critic. He and his bandmates aren't content to rest on their laurels. They are constantly working on their craft.

"Some would say we've proved nothing in Canada. I don't look at it and stand and look at what we've proven or accomplished. I'm sitting in a hotel room in Vancouver working on new material. I'm trying to get it down," he says.

The Tragically Hip will get down Tuesday when they make history as the first touring band to play the new MTS Centre, two days after their appearance as the halftime entertainment at tomorrow's Grey Cup in Ottawa.
Gord Says...
Quote:"I figure all our records are blues records. We're a band created for the long haul, like Howlin' Wolf or Muddy Waters. These are people that played well into their 70s. Howling Wolf, they would have to coax him down from the curtain from above the stage and he was 60 years old. That's rock 'n' roll," he says. "I'm going to be up there at 70. I'm too old to take a typing course."

How cool is this quote. Nice to know that we might get to see the boys on stage 30 years from now eh? I can't imagine what Gord Downie would be like, up there, spazzing-out on stage at age 70, but, I'd be in line-up for tickets, that's for sure. Of course, some buxom blonde nurse would be wheeling me into the club, after driving me down from the "home" in the commual bus. Hopefully, the show would start at 7:00 so I'd be able to stay awake through to the end of the set. The bummer is that I might have to skip the encore, 'cause the bus would most likely leave at 8:15. Dammit, if I miss "Last of the Unplucked Gems"...... Oh well, I'll just get caught up late the next morning when I jack my computer straight into my cereberal cortex and log onto Hipbase.
Great article, thanks for posting.

Does it seem that Gord Downie is doing the lions share of the interviews this time around? I don't recall him being such a traditional frontman/interviewee on previous tours.
Hi all,

Off the main topic of the article, but I was surprised to read what Gord thinks of the Hockey lockout.

Being a HUGE Bruins fan living in upstate NY, I am really missing Hockey. I have been following the issues, and keeping on top of what's going on. Hoping that I'll read on Espn.com's Hockey page that a miracle happened...

From everything I've seen, these 'southern' expansion teams have been fully embraced by their surrounding communities and have been doing well with attendance.

That being the case, why are teams not making $ if they have good attendance at the games...?

I know people say that it's the owners fault for paying these guys these huge contracts. Well, if these owners want to get asses in the seats, they need to sign a guy who can do that... and with the system the way it is, each star gets paid more than the last guy who just signed a huge contract.

It's the vicious cycle that won't be broken unless things change.

How is the lockout playing in Canada? As I mentioned, my news comes from Espn.com's Hockey page.

I'm also a big fan of the NFL. They have a very happy players union - with a salary cap in place, and the league is in fantastic shape. Tons of $ being made, and tons of $ to go around.

They obviously have a great system in place. I can't believe they can't try to mimic this model - or at least learn from it.

You may not like Bettman, but I remember him speaking YEARS ago at different events... He'd give his little speech about what he was there for, but he would always end with saying something like, "We have something we need to take care of. I know it's a few years away, but I'd like to start working on this now..."

Now, the only Hockey I have is NHL 2005 on my Xbox... Which is not the same as driving 3 hours to Boston to park the car, hop on the T and pull into North Station and go to the game, cheer for my team, then filter out later that day, making our way to the North End for some kick-ass Italian food.

To me, it looks like the players are not concerned for the long term - making sure Hockey survives well into the future as the great sport - and business that it is.

...One good Hockey note for me this year... Barry Melrose (ESPN Hockey commentator) purchased a UHL Hockey team over here in Glens Falls NY. We went to check them out last week. Barry was in the crowd watching the game with all the fans. Attendance was so-so, but it was great to see young guys out there playing hard - and it was fun to cheer for the home team - watching Hockey.

- Jerremy
Most people I've heard from blame the players more than the owners. I think both sides have to share the blame, but I agree the players don't seem to be thinking long term about the situation, and they are clearly taking their cue from Bob Goodenow. Sure the owners didn't necessarily have to sign players to big contracts, and they made some bad mistakes in signing guys, but most of the time they had to play by the rules in place at the time, otherwise their team doesn't compete and loses fans. It's clear that Goodenow and many of the players are willing to sacrifice the rookies and fringe players in order to maintain their big money salaries, which does nothing but give the impression they are greedy bastards only into it for the money.

At least some guys are calling Goodenow and Bettman out to make a deal... like Jeremy Roenick. Say what you will about JR... and I have... but at least he is smart enough to realize the situation and has the guts to speak out about it.

I want the NHL to get back and soon, but it's not the end of the world, I can still watch and follow junior hockey... cheering on the team of my old and soon to be again hometown, the London Knights, who are undefeated 23 games into the season and are closing in on a national record! Go Knights Go!!
I think once you set all political points aside, people are more likely to blame the players because they're supposed to be "us". We sort of expect owners to want to make money, but we have a hard time accepting that people who once seemed like just enthusiastic fans of the game are now demanding $10 million to play it. I think players on a team seem more like people who worked their way up from humble beginnings, like most of us dwell in, and now have swelled heads.
As much as the players have come to expect ridiculous amounts of money to play a game that they love, its also hard not to realize that the NHL is a business and they follow the same supply and demand rules of any industry. If someone offered me a 40% raise to re-locate I wouldn't have any second thoughts even though I love my job, I'm sure everyone here wouldn't second guess that opportunity either. I blame the owners as a collective, but sympathize just as much because the nature of the situation. Really, both the NHL and NHLPA are at fault... and damnit, they better fix it soon...

Before the Grey Cup and its festivities The Ottawa Citizen's Sports Page Headliner was about a junior high-school football game... Confusedcratch: ... I still read it... :oops: And as much as I love CSI and L&O, it doesn't quite sit right... I'm used to beer and hockey... right here in this chair... Christ... I watched the OC last week...
das_hips Wrote:Christ... I watched the OC last week...

Maybe the fans should band together and protest the intrasengence of the owners and players using this slogan. :lol: :lol:
das_hips Wrote:Christ... I watched the OC last week...

Oh geez, I've started doing the exact same thing. When the World Series ended I suddenly had this massive void in my television viewing, one thing led to another, and...well, I'm a total OC addict now. Just one more reason to hate the NHL strike.

Steve
They replaced hockey with the OC? (Shudder)