LizardKing51 Wrote:Vote 4 Kerry!!!!!!!! Take the lesser of two evils :lol:
That's it in a nut shell. You will loose with either one it's just the one that you will loose the least with. How sad is it that in such a great nation you can't find a worthy leader????
The Darkest Canuck Wrote:I won't get too high and mighty here though, because Paul Martin and Steven Harper are both jackasses, when oh when will Canadian citizens give the NDP a chance to lead our nation?
The NDP already had their chance in Ontario back in the early 90's and Bob Rae screwed it up so I doubt the NDP will ever get the opportunity there again and since Ontario holds about 71 of the 153(?) seats needed in Parliament to form a majority, you do the math. (Yes I know there's a difference between Federal and Provincial politics)
The NDP have done some changes with Jack Layton as leader and I do agree with some of his views, but a NDP as leader of Canada, hmmm..not anytime soon.
Meanwhile back on topic here. Bush is a flaming friggin' idiot. Americans, please vote him out.
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The Darkest Canuck Wrote:BUT, the fact that he even got into office, and by such a thin margin (quite possibly the same thin margin by which he actually lost the last election :roll
, and that voter turnouts were/are so low, and that so many people really don't care, or don't bother to get informed, is very troubling, and reflects quite piss poorly on your country *shrugs*,
Last Canadian Federal election the voter turnout was approx 60% and becoming less and less each election. That is pisspoor on our parts too.
Nova Scotia is holding municipal elections tommorow. Last election the voter turnout was 20% (!!!). This time it is expected to be around 40-50% because of the provincial plebisite for Sunday shopping. Talk about pisspoor numbers. Hopefully those that want Sunday shopping stay home and don't vote.
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thipfan73 Wrote:kari Wrote:I l ike Bush. But then again, John Kerry reminds me A LITTLE of ex-Cdn Prime Minister Brian Mulroney (the looks), which creeps me out.
Even though I live in the US, I can't vote because I'm Canadian. Guess this pole really doesn't relate to me then. BUT, if I could vote, I'd go with Bush.
He did say open to all nations.
I wish this were true. I tried to register, but cannot. I'm no American!!
highlander Wrote:Last Canadian Federal election the voter turnout was approx 60% and becoming less and less each election. That is pisspoor on our parts too.
Okay, but does poor voter turnout reflect poorly on Canada (and on the US), or does it reflect poorly on the politicians?
One reason for poor voter turnout (in municipal elections, especially) is that the electorate doesn't see a point in voting for one candidate over another. This may mean that there really are no issues, or it may mean that the politicians are failing to engage the public with issues they care about.
The latter situation is the case federally. Large groups of people don't feel that any of the parties present a platform that is worth voting for.
What seems to be happening in Canada (perhaps in the US, but I can't speak to that) is that politics still belongs to the baby boom. This is supported by analyses of voter turnout that show it is especially poor among younger people. Most of the national discourse is wrapped up in concerns dear to the baby boom at this point in their lives: taxes, health care, blah blah blah. Furthermore, the boomlet belongs to what the NYT has labelled the "postpolitical" era, and they seem (for the most part) much less concerned with traditional party politics -- but traditional party politics and ideological struggles still dominate the news.
(The same traditional values are responsible for the notion that poor voter turnout reflects poorly on the nation, and for that old saw, "if you don't vote, you aren't entitled to complain." This line of thinking is an attempt to force people into traditional ideological and party positions, rather than having the parties serve the public interest.)
The failure of our politicians to discover the issues that matter to a large proportion of the electorate, and to be governed by the electorate, reflects poorly on them, not on the electorate itself. Democracy isn't about people choosing among predetermined values; it's about government serving the people.
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Tell me again why one man is made ruler?
AKA "Why I Don't Vote" by Lord B
Put a black guy, a woman or a dude under 40 up there and maybe I will...
Why don't we just go back into the forest and hunt?
Screw this synthetic, materialistic bullshit.
I am a savage. 8)
A savage with an internet connection. :lol: j/k...the site wouldn't be the same without you!
-Jenna
Jenna_Bird Wrote:A savage with an internet connection. :lol: j/k...the site wouldn't be the same without you!
-Jenna
Just because I'm a hairy primitive doesn't mean I don't need the internet.
lord brazle Wrote:Tell me again why one man is made ruler?
AKA "Why I Don't Vote" by Lord B
Put a black guy, a woman or a dude under 40 up there and maybe I will...
Why don't we just go back into the forest and hunt?
Screw this synthetic, materialistic bullshit.
I am a savage. 8)
Three words: Congress, Supreme Court.
There truly is a 'balance of power', my liege......
i vote for the moderator jim leher